Judge Wants to Inject "Dark Knight" Killer with Truth Serum

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by nachtnebel, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    not a joke.

    Whilst I believe this fellow deserves anything thrown his way, this certainly looks medieval to me.
    Might as well throw him in the water to see if he floats.

  2. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Is a person in their right mind if they walk into a crowd and start blowing people away? I have always had issues with that concept.
    Doesn't mean that I don't think they should not be tried, convicted if guilty, and receive punishment.
  3. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I used to ask my Dad the same thingas a teenager when he was involved in a case that had an insanity plea or the possibility of it, and one time he sat me down and said that there are people that are broken, and people that are evil, both fall under the technical designation of "not in their right mind". He said the purpose (at that time anyway), was to cull the people that are broken (and as a result had a little bit lesser level of responsibility for their actions because they were...well, broken), and those that knew what they were doing (the evil ones) and were deemed to be fully responsbile for their actions. He also explained that "normal" and "in their right mind" were fluid terms based on a poop-ton of factors - geography, nationality, religious beliefs, and a whole list a page long, that can have an impact on what is actually considered to be one of those terms. Not that any of those listed reasons make a persons acts any less evil or wrong, just that sometimes there are factors that make the persons POV more relevant in determining if they were broken or evil. The fact that some people grow up thinking that their actions are justified based on their teachings has to be taken into account - if all someone ever knew growing up was to kill someone that crossed them, or that humans are no more special than the chickens in the yard, it is hard to hold them to the same level of responsibility. I kind of looked at him and said "that sounds like a load of Toro Caca", and he nodded and said that some of it was indeed caca, but that the reality of someones upbringing does have an impact on their actions in general, and that those considerations can make a difference.
  4. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Evil or just crazy, should not the gene pool be cleaned?
  5. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Only if you include the lawyers and TSA employees in that. ;)

    I'm torn on the whole "insanity" plea deal. In many cases, I'd consider it more humane to take 'em out behind the barn and put a bullet in their head than to have them spend their entire lives on lockdown because they can't trust themselves not to do something bad.
  6. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I don't think a sane person would walk into a theater and start shooting the place up. The question is what to do after. Incarcerate in a prison, mental health hospital, or death penalty. If a mental health hospital there is always a chance some shrink will determine the person has been treated and is no longer a threat to society and they get released. I'm pretty simple minded and have trouble with the concept of a person getting back on the streets after a mass murder. I don't really care what the docs did, I don't want to take the chance. I'm not against the death penalty either but I do believe it should be used carefully.

    TSA criminals are a whole different deal. I would like to see them locked up in the toughest prisons, in general pop, and let them fend for themselves. Heck, I would let them keep their TSA uniform just to make them stand out.
  7. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Did I mention I told my dad a lot of that was Toro Caca? I agree that the vast majority of people that would commit mass murder are due a stay in a prison, and then possibly the deep sleep (on a case by case basis). In the .01% of the time that a truly broken person does something like this, I am fairly firmly entrenched in the keep em off the streets path as well. There are those that will make the case that someone of that nature could be rehabilitated, but how do we know that? I too am fairly simple in my thought processes, and I am pretty uncomfortable with someone determining that a person responsible for an act of that nature has been healed enough to allow them the opportunity to do the same thing all over again.

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