Man Detained Two Hours For Photographing TSA Checkpoint (TSA Officers Assault Photographer)

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    I posted linked definitions of public figures and public officials, as police officers and TSA employees meet the definitions, but no response. It seems to me that they will allow the posted names of anybody but government officials(excluding Pissy and Nappy). That's just bass ackwards! If you mention the president, off to Omni.
     
  2. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    IMHO the best way to deal with that kind of behavior is withdrawal. Don't associate with them until they improve their standard of behavior. It might take a while, but either it works and they become better company, or you find better company.

    No downside for you.
     
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  3. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Ari posted this at the "other site" regarding redaction of names of key players:

    Does anyone mind if I post a link to this thread?
     
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  4. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I would not. Might get a few more fresh faces over here.
     
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Please do! :p

    I'd sure hate to break almost three months' abstinence. :D
     
  6. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Done close to 4 hours ago and it's still there!
     
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  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    FT has now deleted the uprising postings. I would quess suspensions to follow.
     
  8. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Is a FSD any more of a "public figure" than a uniformed LEO? Many times I've posted their names over there without a mod coming down on me.
     
  9. RB

    RB Founding Member

    You were not read in to the FT Rules of the Day?
     
  10. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Are they like the TSA Rules of the Day?
     
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  11. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    Pretty much apparently.

    From nearly every source where a definition exists, a LEO and a TSA employee are definitely public figures/servants.
     
  12. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Nope! :D Although one time someone (not a mod) questioned why I posted what I did. My response was along the lines of, if someone wants privacy they shouldn't crow about what they do for a living on places like LinkedIn for the Google bots to find. :rolleyes:

    Come to think of it, another guy over there posts full names of TSA employees he encounters without issues (so far). He has his full name and Zip Code in his sig. I should send an invite.

    OK, sorry for going OT. :oops:
     
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    It appears a large block of posts from this morning were deleted without notice & still more posts edited.

    The suggestion to contact the mods or the "Community Director" is a complete waste of time. Been there, done that last May & early June.

    Of the three primary TS/S moderators two (the two without jobs, for whom moderation has become a way of life & an end in itself) ignored me. The third replied telling what her "expectations" of me were. Something's backwards there. A community such as FT should exist FOR its members, not at the pleasure of its moderators.

    At that point Fete Perfection & others & I were already discussing alternatives, and I had already obtained travelunderground.org, as it was the only reasonable domain name I could think of that was available.

    On June 5 (Sunday), just over an hour after I had reserved travelunderground.org, I heard from FT's Community Director Dear Leader that "It is never cool to call out a mod". That clinched it. After an overnight drive back to Minneapolis & a day at work, TUG was born on Monday -- post #1 was made at 11:14 that Monday night.

    TUG's core group (the "founding members") contains just about everybody who's played an activist role in resisting TSA & the nude-o-scopes over the last year. They've pretty much alienated everyone inclined to actively protest TSA.
     
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  14. lkkinetic

    lkkinetic Original Member

    Thanks, Mike, for explaining these things. Since I'm not a prolific poster (but have been lurking at the other place for about 5 years), some of the rules were a bit opaque for me, like the 180-post requirement for Omni access. I also had one of my posts deleted when I had written (what I thought was) an eloquent moral and economic analysis of the TSA and why it fails so many performance metrics on my professional blog, and I shared the link to it at TS/S. Since I was making an economic analysis argument I did not perceive it as particularly political, but no one communicated with me when it disappeared, so I just assumed that I had triggered some political button ... but I couldn't access Omni to tell if that were true!

    That's when I backed off from there and was happy to find "all the cool kids" had come here :D.
     
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  15. cardiomd

    cardiomd Original Member

    I'm also moving over here due to FlyerTalk's idiotic policies. They behave like a small dictator that is suddenly given power, and has to "enforce rules" that don't need to be enforced, and harass innocent people... there are some large similarities between FT and TSA indeed! I'm happy it is not just me that gets extremely irritated by their silent deletion of post, and active censorship. It is certainly not in the spirit of community.

    Like lkk I had some well thought out and (hopefully) informative posts disappear. Infuriating.

    Anyhow, it will be interesting how the OP goes ahead with the court case. Any chance this could get to a major news outlet; haven't seen it on google or yahoo news aggregators yet.
     
  16. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Would you mind starting a thread about that here? One thing in the back of my mind is cost analysis of what is spent on security now, versus in 2000.
     
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  17. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Yes, please do.

    I am very interested in the budget implications of the TSA's enchecked growth and outlandish junk-science toys.
     
  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Sounds like a perfect match for our TSA - Policies, Politics and Political Action forum. :)
     
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  19. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    TUG page views according to Google Analytics -- note a 113% increase for yesterday vs. the previous Monday:

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    There were also 8 new members registered on Monday.

    Thank you, squeakr. You're a sweetie. :D
     
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  20. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Send all of the FT TS/S Mods an invite to TUG, a real discussion group.
     

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