Media at Odds at Exactly How Much to Hype Story of Subway Video Voyeur

Discussion in 'Photography, Law & Travel' started by Carlos Miller @ PINAC, Jun 25, 2012.

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    A man who secretly video records women on the New York City subway system, mainly their legs, is being labeled a “stalker,” a “pervert” and a “creep” by the media.
    And depending on which media source you trust, police are either trying to track him down and throw him in jail for four years or are not doing anything at all about itl.
    Youtube has already terminated the man’s account, who went by the username “John Zippy” and maintained a channel titled “New York Subway Girls.”
    CBS Local states the following about the case:
    Police are on the lookout for a subway stalker who they said has been secretly video-taping young women on trains and posting the videos online.​
    The straphanger allegedly uses a camera hidden in a Starbucks cup to steal shots of women while they ride the rails.​
    He calls himself “John Zippy,” and he posts his shots on a YouTube channel called “New York Subway Girls.” He’s uploaded 35 videos since the beginning of the year and boasts that he always gets away with it because his targets never know what he’s up to.​
    Police said that he could face up to four years in jail for capturing intimate images without the subject’s consent.​
    Meanwhile, the Huffington Post has this to say about the police involvement:
    Even so, police say it's unlikely Zippy will face punishment because of the vagueness regarding what are "intimate" images.​
    And the New York Post has this to say:
    Despite blatantly violating the privacy of female riders, the subway slimeball is unlikely to be brought to justice, law-enforcement sources admit. Taping people in public places is not a crime.​
    While it’s impossible to judge his actions without viewing all of his videos, which no longer exist online, he would deliberately have to shoot up a woman’s skirt for it to be a crime.
    Even if he catches a shot of woman's genitalia by sitting across from her if she happens to open her legs, it would be hard to prosecute the videographer if anybody else without a camera was able to view the same thing.
    That's not saying he's being very gentlemanly about it.
    Meanwhile, there is no such outrage about a site called Subway Crush where commuters posts photos they secretly took of male subway passengers they found attractive.
    Please send stories, tips and videos to carlosmiller@magiccitymedia.com.


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  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    As a proud loudmouthed feminist and lifelong crusader against sexual assault, I have to say I don't think this picture -- and the others if they're like it -- rise to any level of prurience or victimization or stalking. Although, yes, the guy sounds like a creep, especially if he's hiding his camera in a coffee cup. Why not just go up to the girl, say, "hey, I think you're great-looking and I'd like to take a picture of you?" Of course not everyone is going to say yes, but many will.
     
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  3. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I agree with Lisa. This behavior mainly shows that the fellow and perhaps his fans have a problem. It is rich that those in the media wax self-righteous about it when they can't publish enough of these types of photos when they can--witness the wide dissemination of the photos whenever the wind catches the dress of the Dutchess of Cambridge (Kate Middleton) and sends it sailing. Or the complete, cynical and deliberate use of sex to sell everything under the sun. It's perfectly fine to objectify women for commercial purposes, but not for this fellow to do it. It's him that's twisted...
     
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