Video Mom stands up to TSA

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Monica47, Feb 17, 2013.

  1. saulblum

    saulblum Original Member

    You're naïve. Like that'll get you an answer.
  2. RB

    RB Founding Member

    It's not answers that would be expected but pointing out TSA corruption.

    I don't expect TSA (expletive deleted) to take ownership for its faults
  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Nope. The best you can expect is a TSA employee saying, "Well, I don't do it that way and I can't explain why there's a new video every other day showing one of my perfectly cromulent co-workers doing it that way."
  4. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I think they all know that filming is not prohibited but they've been trained to say it is figuring that some percentage of the flying public either won't know it is allowed or will be intimidated enough to stop. This is happening way too much for me to believe all these TSA employees were never told that filming is allowed.
  5. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Agree it happens far to often to be a few misinformed clerks.

    Either that or TSA clerks are dumber than dirt. Rugape, which is it?
  6. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    You're being rhetorical again, right? You're not actually expecting an honest answer?
  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Story and video now linked on Drudge. Bet TSA was hoping the story would just go away.
  8. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Some honesty out of anyone at TSA would be refreshing.
  9. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Some honesty out of anyone at TSA would be a pleasant surprise. And quite probably result in the termination of that employee for breaking ranks.
  10. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    I'm curious in the sudden change in response. They didn't apologize in earlier incidents such as the other crying girl (DFW I think) from a few months back and the boy in a wheelchair at ORD last year.
  11. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    They are losing the battles, both the pr side and the legislative, albeit very slowly. More and more states are working to pass legislation against the Thieves and Sexual Assailants. Last year, only a few, this year, there are a 3 or 4 more, at least of which we know. Every day more people are abused by this agency for the first time, many of whom are not frequent travelers. This is good, because while the frequent travelers are more highly aware of the TSA abuse, they are a small portion of the population. The infrequent travelers make up a much larger group.

    I think that the TSA pre-check program will actually backfire on the TSA in this regard. As the infrequent travelers, who don't know about it, don't get it paid for by their employer and get abused, while the mileage club member wanders through with less hassles next to them. This will draw more attention to the abuse, and make them even more upset about their kids getting taken away while they are groped. I really hate that more Americans will need to be assaulted and abused by the TSA, but it is necessary for the energy to continue building. This is obviously in motion, even as the TSA tries to do the opposite. They think pre-check will help. It won't because infrequent travelers won't pay 100$ more per person for the 1 flight a year. They think the removal of the backscatter machines can be a plus to sell the sheeple since they are removing the radiation and private nude booths, but the MMW are slower and create more false positives.
  12. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    grope by grope by grope. this battle they've lost a long time ago. when the blows start falling, they won't stop. I agree with you, there will be a crescendo of states legislation before this is over. or unless those jackasses stop the molestations.
  13. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

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  15. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    And now a big outpouring of faux Pitty by Pissy ...

    But apparently John "Pissy" Pistole is not apologizing for molesting the child and trampling on the family's civil rights but only for "inaccurate" information?

    CNN: TSA administrator to CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "I empathize with this family... and I'm sorry for the inaccurate information ..."

    Well, let me start by saying that, as a father of two daughters, I empathize with this family. And regret and I'm sorry for the inaccurate information that we provided to that family as they went through the airport security.

    So given that, we have actually made a number of changes, particularly in the last year, year and a half, to move away from that one-size-fits-all security and actually change the policies for children 12 and under and the elderly, 75 and older, so situations like this would not occur.

    So in this instance, after several minutes of having a supervisor come in and what we call the passenger support specialist, the PSS, the - obviously the child, Lucy (ph), was not given a patdown,went through the alternate screening that we have set up for situations like this. And then they were able to go on their vacation and then return in a - in a timely manner.

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    PSS? So now not only do they have BDO/voodoo experts to probe our minds, now they can send out Passensenger Support Specialists to PiSS on us after their other Neanderthal thugs with two-digit IQs have abused us!

    Wunderbar ... :rolleyes:
  16. RB

    RB Founding Member

    So Pissy's changes over the last year, year and a half didn't do squat to prevent this abuse of a 3 year old.

    What Pissy did accomplished is having 50,000 or so TSA clerks that can't be trained to know that taking video is ok and that abusing children is not ok.

    I swear we need to build a guillotine and start a TSA employee corrective action program.
  17. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Becky Akers @ LRC Blog: Pigs Fly and The TSA "Apologizes" (February 22, 2013)

    Posted by Becky Akers on February 22, 2013 08:10 AM

    By now, you’ve probably heard about the three-year-old girl whose spina bifida not only confines her to a wheelchair but rendered her a prime target for the TSA’s sadists when her family flew to Florida. Little Lucy Forck and the abuse she endured has monopolized my Google Alert on the TSA for three days now.

    Bullying children, especially when they’re disabled, is SOP for the agency. The roster of rug-rats the TSA has tormented is as lengthy as it is shameful. But preying on these pitiable youngsters is only one of the TSA’s talents. It is equally skilled at defending such indefensible cruelty. However horrific its crimes against these wee ones and despite the nationwide fury each time it molests another handicapped kid, the agency consistently avers that its goons “followed proper … procedures.” It never apologizes. Instead, it lectures ungrateful passengers that it respects their dignity and privacy, blah, blah, blah, even as it obviously violates both.

    And so its reaction to Lucy’s trauma stuns. The TSA “regrets inaccurate guidance was provided to this family during screening and offers its apology … We are committed to maintaining the security of the traveling public and strive to treat all passengers with dignity and respect. While no pat-down was performed, we will address specific concerns with our workforce.”
    Whoa! Whoever imagined that the word “apology” would cross the TSA’s snout-er, lips? (By the way, this disgraceful spiel is an apology only to the sociopaths in the mainstream media and the TSA. But still…there’s the A-word, front and center.) Notice the lack of boilerplate about “standard procedure,” though the TSA couldn’t help mouthing its usual lie about “treating all passengers with dignity and respect.”

    I have no explanation for this unique phraseology and welcome any you care to provide. The TSA’s unprecedented humility can’t be due to the family’s videotaping its nastiness: other victims have, too. Can we attribute it to Mr. Forck’s status as an attorney? I doubt it: the TSA regularly defies the lice-sorry, lawyers that comprise Congress.

    Or perhaps after all these years the agency has embraced “Public Relations 101.” If so, and hearteningly, it isn’t working. The Forcks may have accepted this vain and vapid “apology,” but no one else has: hatred of the TSA is too virulent. Check out the spirited rebuttals and denunciations that the nauseating “Blogger Bob” – whom we might more accurately call “Propagandist Pete” -- earns over at the TSA’s website when he pretends to “Clarif[y] … the Screening of 3-Year-Old Girl at Lambert–St. Louis International Airport.”
  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Atlantic Wire: The Viral Shame of the TSA, Keeping You Safe from Wheelchair-Bound Kids

    In the latest undeniably sad and borderline pathetic episode of the Transportation Security Administration's miscarriage of common sense war on terror, we bring you to Lambert-St. Louis International Airport in Missouri, where the American government's friskiest agency was forced to apologize to disabled 3-year-old Lucy Forck and her parents after detaining the toddler and threatening her with a pat-down on their way to a family vacation this month. The apology — like so much of the TSA's second guessing in the last decade, at least when it comes to wheelchair-bound child passengers — arrived only after a particularly personal and inappropriate airport screening went viral. In this case, Lucy's mom, Annie, shot this security-line cellphone video on February 8 in St. Louis ...

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  19. These articles clarify and confirm what I thought was true about this video -- there was no patdown. This mom stood up to these skeezy clerks and won. She pulled out her phone to tape the patdown, and then the argument started about whether she could tape or not, and then they backpedaled and claimed there was to be no patdown. I think this is a pretty big deal. Video here shamed and frightened the clerks. Sucks that the little girl had to be bullied, but the bullies ultimately cowered and backed down. I hope mothers all over the country are learning from this episode. I know I am.
  20. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I don't care if Pistole apologizes. I want the screeners involved to be made to apologize to the girl in public in front of all bystanders. A bit of public shamming is character building.

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