More security hocus pocus -- magic wands?

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    American Thinker: Profiling - Just Do it!

    It's not just for afros anymore ...

    Hocus pocus, abra cadabra ...

    And once a proper spell had been cast on the photo album, there was the matter of explosive hydrogen dioxide at the gate:

    and her conclusion:

    I know I quoted way too much, but it's a great article -- please go read ALL of it.
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  2. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    As Tony the Tiger would say: Grrrreaaate!! :D
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  3. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    TSA can harass themselves out of a job and the sooner, the better!!!
  4. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    The scientist in me must clarify that it's dihydrogen monoxide you're thinking of. ;)

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  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Shhhh, this my secret new compound to bring TSA to its knees trying to figure out how to test for something that can't really exist. It should be the ultimate circus.
  6. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    IME, the correct response should have been: "Will I need to be deloused after you're finished?"
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  7. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    It's all good stuff. The contamination of sealed containers of food and water is a separate issue - I think.

    If they're going to contaminate the food and beverages, they need to take the food and discard it - admitting that it's no longer fit for consumption, because it isn't.

    Every passenger subjected to this dog and pony show should squeal "OMG, the TSA suspects the food and beverages sold here are explosive!", gingerly place the container on the floor and back away.
  8. I still like the idea of pretending to go along with their bev check and then accidentally/on purpose dropping your drink on their feet.
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  9. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I wonder if it was an ADE-651 Bomb Detector. Seems like something the TSA would buy.
  10. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    You mean in that space between the top of the water and the top edge of the bottle, there was no nitrogen? No oxygen? No argon, CO2, neon, methane, helium or all the rest? I'd have to say that a bottle that maintains a vacuum without the top on is not exactly safe. ;)
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  11. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Maybe it was using Maxwell's Demon's cousin to let the liquid out but no gases in.
  12. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Of all the useless, illogical, idiotic things that TSA does in the guise of providing "airline security," testing liquids purchased after the security checkpoint has got to be the most useless, illogical, idiotic things that they do. (...aside from "clearing" collars on collar-less shirts, patting down bald heads, bare skin, and tops of one, and only one, sock.) :rolleyes:
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  13. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Considering those strips are nothing more then PH strips that dont tell them squat. Everytime they pull thopse strips out I tell them I want to see the MSDS sheets on those strips and then its a 3 ring circus including the pissed off clown, and in the end they do there BS voodoo and I laugh and ridcule them the whole time. Its a federal requirement if they dont like it they can take it up with OSHA.
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  14. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

  15. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Hmm. What's an MSDS sheet? Can anyone request to see these? Sounds like a great idea.

    Do tell...
  16. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    MSDS = Material Safety Data Sheet -- This is a way to screw with TSA as much if not more then what they do to us. This governs not only requirements of having sheets for all chemicals, but also proper labelling of chemicals not in there original container. OSHA is one of those government agencies that you just dont want to mess with, unless your really into S&M.

    In the U.S., the Occupational Safety and Health Administration requires that MSDS be available to employees for potentially harmful substances handled in the workplace under the Hazard Communication regulation. The MSDS is also required to be made available to local fire departments and local and state emergency planning officials under Section 311 of the Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act. The American Chemical Society defines Chemical Abstracts Service Registry Numbers (CAS numbers) which provide a unique number for each chemical and are also used internationally in MSDSs.
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  17. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Clever idea! I agree that that the MSDS must be on file and made available to anyone coming in contact with a potentially hazardous chemical. Every facility or construction site that uses any chemical, including benign ones, has to have the MSDS sheet in their file (usually a binder) or face a fine or shut down if these are found to be severely lacking. No one is exempt including Federal sites such as military bases and research facilities. I expect that TSA is also required to comply.
  18. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    You said OSHA requires MSDS to be available to employees, fire departments and emergency services - does this extend to the general public? I'm just envisioning some blowhard smurf-clerk trying to stonewall a pax asking to see the MSDS of their useless, worthless terror-tester by trying to claim it's SSI or some other nonsense like that.
  19. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

  20. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    It can't be classified under anything, and blowhard saying otherwise is asking for massive OSHA fines. It's required to be available to anyone at anytime. Being out of date is worse then not having it at all to OSHA.

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