N.Y. police challenged on illegal stops and searches

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by RB, May 16, 2012.

  1. RB

    RB Founding Member

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-05-16/nypd-unlawful-stops-lawsuit/55027100/1

    I think many TUGers will support the Judge on this ruling.

    Seems NYC has forgotten everything there is to know about civil rights, reasonable suspicion, and probably cause.
     
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  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

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    That's two good decisions today!​

    Up yours, Kelly & Bloomberg. I hope your taxpayer-funded arrogant disregard for the constitution costs your city millions -- tens of millions!
     
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  3. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    A good day for liberty all round...
     
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  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Looks like Bloomburg's making a weak effort to lessen the impact of stop & frisk by de-emphasizing marijuana possession ...

    NY Times: Bloomberg Backs Plan to Limit Arrests for Marijuana

    Too little, way too late. The problem is the stop & frisk itself; what you do with what you find is incidental.
     
  5. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Can't find the original thread; coaches please move if necessary.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/04/n...et-stops-falls-34-percent.html?pagewanted=all
     
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    They see dollars flowing out of their pockets. Apparently the arrogance of Bloomberg & Kelly isn't trickling down very well.


     
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Doh! Any idiot with half a brain could have seen that.



    Listen carefully for the sucking sounds of money being extricated to compensate hundred of thousands, perhaps millions, of victims.
     
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  8. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    wherever would they have gotten that idea? I have no clew....

    loss of qualified immunity applies here, methinks. can't get immunity for eggregious civil rights violations...

    do you suppose the 34% drop is only the beginning?
     
  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member



    We didn't anticipate the citizenry reading the Constitution! We didn't know they could read.

     
  10. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    What concerns me is that crime statistics suggest violent crime is increasing as detain and grope has declined. I suspect those numbers are fudged, but it bears watching.
     
  11. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Stop and frisk from the perspective of a female:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/nyregion/for-women-in-street-stops-deeper-humiliation.html?_r=1&hp

    There's even a reference to TSA "pat downs"......
     
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  12. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I don't think that would justify the stop and frisk without probable cause actions. Police need to do police work which is difficult instead of using spidey sense which is easy.
     
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  13. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

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  14. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I don't see how "stop and frisk" is legal. Period.

    I don't see how it can be legal, and I think it's a national crisis demanding swift correction. We can't let this sort of thing slide.
     
  15. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    It is highly illegal, which is why the lawsuit against it has class action status. There will soon be many million$ of reasons why this procedure will stop. what a bunch disgusting b*st*rds.
     
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