Newark airport Terminal C locked down after security breaches [alarms for "bomb-making materials"]

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Monica47, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Problem is, even after multiple incidents like this, Congress won't have the stones to do the right things and shitcan this agency.
  2. RB

    RB Founding Member

    When the ETD machines TSA uses alarms on Contact Lens solutions why is anyone surprised over false alarms?

    The whole methodology of TSA screening is wrong. Bad procedures, even worse screeners, and incompetents that TSA tries to pass off as managers.

    The general public could have been used to make airport screening processes more effective, except TSA decided to treat the public like criminals.
  3. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    And then TSA wonders why all the hostility.
  4. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Whether they lady's escape was a accidental on her part or deliberate, it was understandable. Who want to be sexually assaulted? (That's a rhetorical question.) You can't blame someone for doing everything in their power to avoid having their sex organs mauled by a creepy thug.
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  5. saulblum

    saulblum Original Member

    And if was deliberate, imagine what several such simultaneous incidents at all the terminals of an airport like ATL would accomplish: effectively shut down US aviation, no contraband even needed.
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  6. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I hope they're not tormenting this lady too badly. Honestly, I doubt she's guilty of anything but common sense and common decency.
  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    She is guilty of expecting professional security workers at an airport.
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  8. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Which immediately invokes the ire of the TSA - because they don't have any of that.
  9. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    Recently my neighbor flew from Seattle to Orlando. She was in line for the scanner when there was some problem with the machine. She honestly doesn't remember going through any screening at all in the confusion - not even the metal detector. Perhaps this particular passenger just slipped through the cracks in the chaos that is often the security area but if she did deliberately avoid further screening then kudos to her!
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  10. RB

    RB Founding Member

    The TSA checkpoints are a confusing, disorganized, poorly controlled example of how to move people through any process.

    It's almost like TSA didn't do any planning on how to screen people. But they sure know how to buy expensive wizbang machines that don't do the job intended.
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  11. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    They're also really good at hiring thieves, thugs, rapists, and morons.
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  12. RB

    RB Founding Member

    You forgot the drug dealers, ex-priests who likes little girls, and those TSA employees who can be bribed for around $200.

    What a fine group of people to not be a part of!
  13. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    1) Thugs, 2) rapists (perverts?), 3) Morons.

    On this we can agree most wholeheartedly.
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  14. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Wellll actually they don't wonder that at all.
    Head in the sand....

    They still think they're doing an awesome job, the public >3 luvs>3 them-just read that crap they pat themselves on the back over and over for.

  15. Oh, but they did! Remember, they hired consultants, who figured out to buy little non-slip dog bowls for people to put their keys and money in. Kip Hawley was very proud of the little dog bowl solution. But I think that's where their planning ended.
  16. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Seems I recall the little dishes being available pre TSA.
  17. I think the innovation was that they were non-slip, though I don't have time to find the article.
  18. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Pre TSA we still had to unload our pockets of metal items like coins, knives, and such before the WTMD. The little bowls were used for that. The bowl was handed back after clearing the WTMD.
  19. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Someone needs to inform these bozos (esp. the Star-Ledger) that what the woman tested for was a chemical commonly found in hand lotion, contact-lens solution, etc., and that the vast majority of alarms are NOT for explosives. This is just another example of TSA's security theater at its finest. Alarms on actual explosive materials are few and far between, and even then they tend to have innocuous explanations, e.g. the traveler was target or trap shooting the day before.

    I'm trying, but it's hard to get through all the bloatware on the 41.2 kbaud dialup @ my cabin.

    Star Ledger: Newark Liberty Airport security foul-up is breach of public trust

    That’s why the security breach at Newark Liberty International Airport on Sunday is so disturbing. is reporting that the woman who was improperly screened had tested positive for residue of explosives on her hands, and needed to be examined more thoroughly. Hours earlier, an oversized checked bag set off an alarm for possible explosive material. The bag was cleared after it was examined, but as we know, no such clearance was given to the woman.

    The woman evaded security and boarded her flight to Cleveland – leaving chaos in her wake. Terminal C at Newark Liberty was locked down for three hours, stranding hundreds of travelers. The airport reported 165 flights were canceled or delayed. Every passenger had to be rescreened by security. But more than that, if the report is accurate, the woman in question knew she was under suspicion and needed to be rescreened. Where is she now? Will she be arrested and face punishment? How did she slip through security personnel who had identified her as a risk? The Transportation Security Administration needs to address these questions.

    Manasquan-Belman.patch: Poll: Did TSA Overreact at Newark Airport?

    This incident is being described as the most serious screening incident to occur at the airport since January 2010 when a college student caused a major scare and airport shut-down after sneaking underneath a security rope to kiss his departing girlfriend.

    Are we being too cautious with airport security?

    Should thousands of travelers' lives be interrupted because one woman walks away from a TSA agent?

    Is allowing her to then board a flight and land two hours later at her destination still unfound a demonstration of incompetence?

    Should we be worried?
  20. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    That's still worth a "Notice Of Apparent Liability" to the tune of $11,000, and I'll bet TSA will be trying to add on all the airline financial losses for this drill.

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