Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by RB, May 16, 2012.
Add Rohin Hood to the list of Fubars & lies to the citizens of Texas.
It was called "Grammar School" for a reason...
Not to drop names, but I had dinner with Ethyl Kennedy (Bobby's wife) and her daughter Kathleen once (I did some work for David, Kathleen's husband). I didn't know who they were, until they introduced me to their mother. Quite decent human beings, very gracious. Not all the Kennedy folks are like Ted and Jack....
now. just veered off into a tree....
Which is what the rich Districts depend on for their touted "accomplishments".
Agree completely. My son is rotting in a CA school--oh and in a "to die-for" School District With LD/ADHD, not that there are resources for that--they depend on parents' ability to pay for wall-to-wall tutors. (Bite me, CA.)
Talk about privilege! Would that my son had the luxury of being homeschooled! And one gets money from the State for that, on top of one's ability to stay at home and homeschool? Seems like the the rich getting richer to this embittered, working (yes, outside the home) Mom.
Do they give out money for homeschooling in CA? In AK, I only get money if I jump through a bunch of hoops, including tons of recordkeeping, my kids taking the standardized tests, and having a teacher oversee my homeschooling. I opt out, since I can make more money if I teach an adjunct class here and there (which is no cash cow, let me tell you) than the paltry 1-2 grand a year they toss our way if we submit to state surveillance. It's really not worth the time and trouble.
I believe it's not worth the BS if you are allowed to homeschool without it. Just pointing out that homeschooling is also a luxury unavailable to most. I would choose it over the brain-dead public school aparatus in a heartbeat.
Phoebepontiac, it sounds like you're a hardcore homeschooler--that's great! In CA, by law you can declare yourself (via affadavit) a school and teach your own kids. The state can do diddly about that. Reluctantly, state education authorities have allowed various charter schools to come into existence that cater to homeschoolers in order to have SOME influence. We did the affadavit thing for a couple of years then switched to a charter that allotted us a few thousand per year to be spent on classes, equipment, or tutors, although the amount has been decreasing over time. That paid for PE in the form of karate--all three homeschooled kids have their black belts via that, music lessons, some art, some science, such as biology, chem, physics that required lab facilities. In this framework, it is possible to create your own custom curriculum, which is what we did.
In the early years, a lot of soul searching about this--are you ruining your kids, making them anti-social, etc. But once the kids hit high school, it became obvious that our worries were unfounded. The kids were far better socialized, had a far better sense of themselves and who they were, stronger in themselves than the schoolers, who had been so defined by their peers over so long a time that they found it difficult to know what it was that THEY wanted--they lived for their peer group and defined themselves by it. The standardized tests are useful in diagnosing where your kids need more work the following year; that's all. (We gave cash prizes for proficients, and larger ones for advanced, to help motivate them; other than that, they were not taught for those tests.) We had a compliant "overseer" and were largely left alone, although mileage varies here. We did decline a lot of AG classes though, because they required using crappy textbooks and content that we knew we could replace with better, which meant none of our kids were going to any Univ of Cal schools. We do know good people who won't put up with this oversight and homeschool on their own--that's great, in my book. But we found it not onerous and we are pretty independent.
As to KrazyKat's observation, I'm sorry to hear about that. It isn't possible for everyone. But it isn't entirely a "rich person's game". I was not making much money when we started this back in the early 90's, so it was a sacrifice living on one modest income. We structured our lifestyle accordingly. As the family size grew, I worked harder. Had a few stays in the hospital until I learned what my limits were in that regard. Things were tight until I had some good fortune in the dot com boom. But even without that, homeschooling was possible, and certainly nobody in the US would have called me rich.
I agree with Krazy Kat's other observation. Heaven help you if your kid has some difficulty (esp severe ADHD) in a regular school. They will be crucified, emarginated and get no help.
KrazyKat -- I get what you're saying, and I agree, I'm fortunate my husband is willing to sacrifice his health and sanity to his corporate ladder climb. We're not getting rich, though -- just barely hanging on to comfortable.
Nachtnebel -- I thought I remembered you mentioning homeschooling your kids! Very cool. I liked reading your thoughts about it. I do talk a big game about keeping the state out of our business, but in reality my kids are just almost 2 and almost 6, so it's not really an issue yet. If it is ever the best idea to sign up with a program to get funds or get the kids in sports or whatever, I'm open to it. I'm even open to them going to high school, if it's the right thing to do... for one thing, my son is intensely athletic, even at his age, so we'll do what we need to do to give him the opportunities he needs in that department.
What's cool, though, in AK, unless we sign up with a program to get funding, we don't have to register in any way. The school system has no idea that our kids even exist. That's very appealing to me for some reason, I always like to fly below the radar.
They aren't being prepared in WY:
Their teacher thought they were "cute."
Kudos for refusing to be capped at the expectations, as the lowest common denominator, the least-they-can-be student at an American high school.
What a long way down it is from there, to get to the level of the TSA.
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