No Relief in Sight

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by Elizabeth Conley, Dec 6, 2011.

  1. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    The TSA's asshattery is absolutely unabated. They've been at it all year. Elder Abuse, Sexual Assault, Sexual Harassment, Pedophilia, Retaliation Against Whistle-Blowers, Reckless Endangerment, Workplace Descrimination, Creating a Hostile Work Environment, Lying to Congress, Theft, Ethnic Profiling, Drug Smuggling, Unprecedented 4th Amendment Violations, Unlawful Detention, Malicious Mischief, Fraud and Misuse of Government Funds.

    I'm sure I missed one or more of the TSA's activities. Their criminal versatility and astounding size lends itself to infinite malfeasance. Anyone care to add to the list?

    Anyway, my point is: congress has done nothing. The courts have done nothing. We have no protection from our Federal Executive Branch whatsoever.

    The War on Citizens is undeclared but ongoing. We have no defense. Who among us wants to spend the rest of their life engaged in guerrilla warfare against the vast federal crime syndicate? Not I, that's for sure. I plan to live out my life in peace the best I can.

    The Rule of Law will return the instant Ma and Pa Kettle realize it's gone, and not one minute earlier. I don't know what it takes to get through to the Kettles, but I'm hoping and praying something breaks through their fugue state soon. What's going on in this country is not good.
     
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  2. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    Viewed from outside, the USA appears to have gone insane and persists in getting worse!

    Other places are doing the same, but at a slightly slower pace.
     
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  3. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Ma and Pa Kettle (and John Doe, and Jane Doe, and Supposedly Privileged, Educated, Should-Know-Better Does everywhere):

    "I just don't understand how the Germans let those nasty Nazis come to power! I just don't understand it! Why, nothing like that could ever happen here. After all, we're special!"
     
  4. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    For what it's worth, on the Congressional-inaction point, I'm encouraging everyone I know to vote all incumbents out even if they feel those incumbents did a good job.

    A massive ousting of legislators might be the kick-start Congress needs to actually start resolving some problems. If we take all those powerful people who have a lot to lose, then make them lose it as we replace them with fresh blood, fresh ideas, and people with much less to lose for passing "daring" acts, maybe people will see that we need more change than was promised in our current president's campaign.
     
  5. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    The federal government has been totally co-opted by powerful interests and is actively working against the interests of the man in the street and against the states.
     
  6. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    While my Senators did vote for the Udall amendment, they also voted for the National Defense Authorization Act.

    I can only conclude that they felt "safe" voting for the Udall amendment, but not sufficiently brave enough to vote against the NDAA.

    That's a FAIL!
     
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  7. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    National Defense Authorization Act.

    Isn't that the one that declared hometown USA a war zone, where people are bad if they have more than seven days worth of food stored?
     
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Soon those of us posting on sites such as this will be designated "domestic extremists" -- if we haven't already.
     
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    Lisa Simeone Original Member

  10. LeeAnne

    LeeAnne Original Member

    Does anyone wonder now why I'm leaving the country...for good?
     
  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Nope. Totally understand. Though I think two years from now might be too late. A lot can happen in two years. There might even be exit visas required by then. Don't scoff (lurkers who are reading but not commenting) -- a year ago nobody would've believed we'd allow the routine assault of citizens just to get on a plane.

    As a Canadian friend put it, "Exit visas are the red line. If you cross that, you're done. There's no nuance left. You will be in a full-blown police state."
     
  12. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    More worrying is that I've heard people advocate it. Years ago. As a solution to the illegal-immigration problem. "Oh, for pete's sake, just close the borders! Nobody in, nobody out, problem solved!" Spoken in an offhand, casual sort of way belying the lack of critical thought given to its implications.

    I responded in shock when I heard it. "Nobody OUT? Did you seriously just say nobody OUT?!?" The person in question seemed flabbergasted that anyone would ever want to *gasp* LEAVE the good ol' USA!
     
  13. LeeAnne

    LeeAnne Original Member

    Believe me, if we could leave sooner we would. Problem is, we still have two young-adult children who are not quite yet stabilized on their path to self-sufficiency. We also are just not yet there financially - we both need to work for another couple of years to be able to have enough reserves to do this comfortably.

    Trust me, if we could set sail now, the sails would be billowing as we speak. Every day I am more and more frightened. I know we tend to use Godwin's Law a lot in this forum, but I honestly can think of no other closer example of what is happening here today: the good citizens of pre-war Germany could never have anticipated what their country would become. Well, we CAN anticipate it - we've seen it happen already, and the signs are just too startling.
     
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  14. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    There's been at least one confirmed report (someone I know) of TSA attempting to board a private boat in a harbor. Maybe Ronnie will end up on harbor patrol. :D

    It ain't over till you're past Hawaii, and avoid Guam.
     
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  15. LeeAnne

    LeeAnne Original Member

    Mike, if a TSO tries to board my boat, I guarantee you that person will end up in the drink. They have NO right to board privately-owned vessels. I can't even see how that could be considered part of their so-called "mission" - how can private owners of a private yacht, who aren't transporting anyone but themselves, be considered a terrorist threat to our transportation system?

    Anyway, I hope the "someone you know" didn't let them board.

    And if I ever meet up with a TSO named Ronnie anywhere near my boat...um...getting wet will be the least of his worries.

    Believe me, we can't get out of here soon enough. Fortunately Hawaii is not on the itinerary, and neither is Guam. :p
     
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  16. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Maybe LeAnne and her husband could use some deck hands. :eek::D
     
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  17. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Okay, Mike, you've gotta tell us more. This is even beyond the existing outrages. Please give us some details. I know you can't reveal names. But what about at least location, time of year, something?
     
  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Family-owned small yacht in the Northeast, can't really be any more specific since he did not wish to go public with the details. If I can find the public post where he mentioned it, I'll send you a link.

    Later: Managed to find it, sending PM.
     
  19. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Thank you.

    I really urge people in general -- including anyone reading this -- to go public with this kind of stuff. The more publicity it gets, the better. And the more the naysayers won't be able to lie and deny. Of course they will anyway, but at least it'll be easier to expose them.
     
  20. LeeAnne

    LeeAnne Original Member

    Hey Mike, as a yacht owner myself, I'd really love to get that PM as well... Pretty please??? >3
     

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