No, TSA has not banned photography -- missing web page on checkpoint photography is back

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    The Transportation Security Administration is not rescinding on its policy allowing passengers to record security checkpoints at airports, despite the fact that its policy is no longer found on the original link.
    A TSA official said the deletion of the page is simply a result of the federal agency migrating its content to a new website.
    The photo policy can still be found on this 2009 blog entry.
    In response to an inquiry from Photography is Not a Crime, Bob Burns of the TSA Office of Public Affairs said the policy will eventually be posted on the new site.
    Earlier today, Infowars noticed that the policy was no longer available on the link where it had been for years, prompting them to write a story stating that it was “most likely a response to a newly launched national Opt Out and Film campaign set to launch during Thanksgiving week in November.”
    We’ll keep our eyes open to see how long it takes to repost the policy on its new site.
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  2. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Unless your totally incompetant you should not loose any content when you move a site from one server to another. Then again this is TSA so incompetance is rampant, and I bet there trying to hide it so they can abuse people even more without being recorded.
     
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    When databases are involved, it's not that simple.
     
  4. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    True but I didnt think TSA was smart enough even to understand html let alone database driven.
     
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Setup is often automated through install scripts. When it's time to move one, you're on your own, and if work for TSA, you probably weren't allocated enough marbles for the task.
     
  6. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    What good is the TSA website as something to refer to when a policy is questioned? The usual retort is "The website is out of date", "This airport is different", etc.
     
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  7. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    It isn't. TSA employees will lie about it either way.

    "The website says photography isn't prohibited."

    Response A: "It's out of date. Turn off that camera!"
    vs.
    Response B: "Show me where it says that. I don't see anywhere it says that."
    vs.
    Response C: "I don't care what the website says. You're in MY airport at MY checkpoint and I HAVE THE POWER."
     
  8. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    They had enough marbles when they went to work for TSA, but they were confiscated as weapons.
     
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  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Conspiracy theory or devious plan by TSA to thwart the upcoming opt out & film day? New American is the official mouthpiece of the John Birch Society.

    New American: TSA Retracts "Approval" to Film at Security Checkpoints

    In response to an "Opt Out and Film" national campaign that encourages airline passengers to opt out of the naked-body scanners and film TSA screeners, the Transportation Security Administration has retracted its approval of filming its procedures at security checkpoints.

    Prior to announcement of the campaign, the TSA had advised on its website:

    TSA does not prohibit the public, passengers or press from photographing, videotaping or filming at security checkpoints, as long as the screening process is not interfered with or slowed down.

    Efforts to see that version of the webpage now lead to a 404 error page; however, Google’s cache of the old page can still be viewed.


     
  10. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    For the record, here is that info from Google Cache (original URL is www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/taking_pictures.shtm):

    Taking Pictures at the Checkpoint

    For Travelers

    TSA does not prohibit the public, passengers or press from photographing, videotaping or filming at security checkpoints, as long as the screening process is not interfered with or slowed down. We do ask you to not film or take pictures of the monitors. While the TSA does not prohibit photographs at screening locations, local laws, state statutes, or local ordinances might.
    Taking photographs may also prompt airport police or a TSA official to ask what your purpose is. It is recommended that you use the Talk To TSA program on tsa.gov to contact the Customer Support Manager at the airport to determine its specific policy. Or, if you are a member of the press, you should contact the TSA Office of Public Affairs.
     
  11. Doober

    Doober Original Member

  12. RB

    RB Founding Member

    TSA did a new webpage setup and the links were (are) broken. I think it is more to do with the new web page and broken links than it is a policy change.

    Little matter though since TSA screeners are not familiar with most policies anyhow.
     
  13. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    This morning, I attempted 3 times to open the TSA website. Each time it came up, my computer froze and each time a different page appeared. Finally, on the 4th attempt, it came up and didn't freeze my computer. I then search for photography and got the 404 message.

    Their new site is nothing but a CF - but since that's the way the rest of the organization runs, why I am still surprised is beyond me. I guess hope does spring eternal.
     
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  14. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I'd say they're extremely familiar with the "policies" they invent out of whole cloth.
     
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  15. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Depends on the site's real purpose.

    If the purpose really is to provide information to the citizenry, epic fail.

    If the purpose is to obfuscate, then it's doing its job very well indeed.
     
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  16. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    It seems to me that the new site is a way for TSA to tell TSA how awesome TSA is.

    In that regard the site is an epic success.

    Did you guys not see the entire section devoted to NINE ELEVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! propaganda?

    The site is an offence to Americans and other decent people.

    In that regard I wouldn't worry too much about the photography page disappearing. It's obvious TSA wants us all to know how awesome they think they are. Useful information is an afterthought.
     
  17. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    ...which is why the TSA and its employees love it so.
     
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  18. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    I saw a great new Android app the other day that I'm trying out. It lets you take photos and video in stealth mode. Even the icon for it is camouflaged. ;)^
     
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  19. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Mind sharing the name of it?
     
  20. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    I think someone there has realized how poorly the TSA is seen by the general public and, increasingly, Congress. However, rather than actually DO anything substantive at the checkpoint about it, they put out this new website that is nothing but self-promotion.
     

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