NY man Tasered-subdued and arrested for bomb comment at airport

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, May 22, 2012.

  1. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach


    Was it really necessary to Taser a drunk? And why is it that I don't believe the police account of this? Just cynical I guess.
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Because too many police officers today lack the basic people skills needed to do the job. It's easier just to use a "pain-compliance" (i.e. torture) device than to make an effort to communicate with people.

    Civilian authorities in this country really need to reassert control over the police and remind them who they are supposed "to protect and to serve".

    Wonder what would happen if we were to start posting on police sites? :D
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  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Private Officer News isn't really a police site, it's just police & security news scraped off the web.

    Looks to me like a copyright lawsuit waiting to happen since they appear to copy & paste entire articles.

    Not my problem though .... :D
  4. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    You would not be allowed on. Police sites mostly have a police-only policy and you have to have your credentials verified. If you need to :vomit:check out policeone.com
  5. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    It is convenient that they have "police only" policies and verify credentials. If you want to know how police-thugs "think", just check out their "police only" blogs.

    Sometimes when a supposed "officer" posts profane, anti-social, violent, inappropriately entitled gibberish on an open forum I wonder if the poster is actually just some pimply faced twerp in his mother's basement. Not so with these "credentials verified" sites. The sociopathic chatter is a real reflection of police officers' attitudes. Be afraid, be very afraid. More than anything else, it's those "police only" sites that have convinced me that our police recruitment and training must be reformed. These guys are sick and twisted.

    PS: He didn't claim to have a bomb!

    I wonder which "wordy dirds" he used to qualify is language as "profane." Using the word bomb is not the same as mentioning "a bomb." Given the wild exaggeration over his use of the word bomb, I have to wonder if he also mentioned that he was traveling to see the Hoover Damn or offered the smurf a breath mint to remedy (expletive deleted)-itosis.
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  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Thanks for the heads-up. At TSA News:

    Man Tasered for mentioning the word “bomb”
    by LISA SIMEONE on MAY 23, 2012
  7. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    I'm registered on Mass Cops without claiming any police affiliation. Interesting that of the three or four police sites I visit, they are all anti-TSA. The actual cops view the TSA as imposters and compare them to the criminals they arrest every day.
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    That's always been what I've read and heard from the horse's mouth. (It doesn't explain, though, why they often side with the smurfs at the checkpoint -- Andrea Abbott, Yukari Miyamae, Jayve Montgomery, Aaron Tobey, etc.)
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  9. MaximumSisu

    MaximumSisu Requiescat in Pace

    Ask those cops how they feel about airport police departments, or cops from regular departments who spend all their time on airport duty. Report back.
  10. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    This is speculation, but I'd say that it has to do with conditioning the public to always yield to authority. Smurf-clerks are officious martinets at best and LEO impersonators more often than that, but they still have more authority than the average pax. If people get used to having "the system" back them when fighting against another element of "the system," then what happens next time a John Adrian Pike wants to get spray-happy? Much harder to cover up and make excuses when there's precedent of law enforcement having the common folks' back.

    When it's private between a LEO and a smurf-clerk, though, the smurf-clerk is going down.

    The only reliable or consistent exception I've heard of to this is the Amtrak PD, probably because O'Connor knows who butters his bread and realizes that alienating Amtrak pax (Am-pax?) would spell disaster for him, his department, and potentially Amtrak (which is currently enjoying a nice revenue boost courtesy of Reichskommissar Pistole and his merry molesters) as a whole.

    Okay, betraying another knowledge gap here, but...there's a difference between airport police and city police? Is this a caliber-of-training thing, or...what? I guess I thought the cops at O'Hare & Midway were CPD officers on rotation or some such.
  11. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    There are two possible explanations;
    One is that the LE used at the airport is little better than the smurfs. BWI uses MdTA police that are basically toll cops, not real LE. They too are derided by real cops. I once went off to a friend about how useless these idiots were (pre TSA) while riding the bus back to the satellite parking lot. The woman sitting across from me looked up and agreed saying she was a Maryland State Trooper and hated have to deal with these buffoons as 'equals".

    The other factor is that some use the airport as a dumping ground for cops that they can't get rid of but are useless as real cops. They send the rejects to the airports and other programs to get them our of the active ranks to avoid the difficulties associated with firing these dirtbags.
  12. TSA News Blog

    TSA News Blog News Feed


    A man who was clearly intoxicated was attacked by police with a Taser after the TSA reported that he was “making threats” at Austin Straubel International Airport.
    I know we’ve been told for years not to make jokes about bombs or indeed even to mention the word “bomb” in the presence of the TSA. I get it. But this man was visibly drunk. I understand that the TSA agents, who have no law enforcement authority (thank god), were required to call the police. But did the cops have to torture the guy?
    Apparently he was using — gasp — profane language. Well, there’s a big scary threat for you. Under that guideline, I should be taken into custody and “subdued” several times a day. Probably several times an hour.
    (Photo: Flickr Creative Commons/Michael Coté)
  13. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    By that standard I'd need a SWAT team stationed in my server room round-the-clock.

    "Hey Celtic, I got that 'delayed write failed' thingie again."



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