NYPD Officer Maces Group of Detained Women

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Affection, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    You've probably heard of the "Occupy Wall St." protests. In one incident, they corralled of a bunch protesters -- perhaps 4 or 5 women -- with a mesh fence, and then a Deputy Inspector went up to the group and sprayed them all in the face with mace.

    If you're unfamilar with police ranks, Deputy Inspector is very high in the NYPD. This person, D.I. Anthony Bologna, not only should have known better, but in fact has been indicated in many abuses before, one of which I witnessed personally in 2004, when the NYPD attacked protestors of the Republican National Convention. To put into perspective my point of view, I'm a Republican, and could not believe the way these protesters of the convention were treated.

    There's a Facebook group calling for the arrest of this rogue "cop." I urge you to check it out, along with the related pictures and video:

    http://www.facebook.com/Justiceforo...tif&notif_t=like#!/Justiceforordinarycitizens

    Or, just search "nypd wall" on YouTube for plenty of abuse videos, about half of which contain this particular cop.

    This kind of tyranny is of the same breed that we see at the airport. Anything to keep us safe : TSA :: Anything to keep order : police. We must fight it at all levels.

    --Jon
     
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  2. VH-RMD

    VH-RMD Original Member

    what a brave man. The kind of role model you really want others to look up to...
     
  3. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Jon, this and the other videos that have gone viral have finally forced the U.S. media to cover Occupy Wall Street. But it took them 9 days. The foreign press has been covering it from the beginning (thank god, as usual, for the Guardian). But our press? Fuhggedaboudit. I talked to so many reporters in the national and local media, trying to get them to pay attention; they weren't interested. The NYT the other day even had enormous pictures on the front page of protesters and police in other countries, but not in their own back yard!

    Then, finally, when all these videos came out, they couldn't ignore it any longer.

    Not all the cops, by the way, are behaving dishonorably. One of the cops in that pepper-spray video turns in disbelief to his colleagues and says, "I can't believe he just f--king Maced her!" It's the white shirts -- the lieutenants and sergeants -- who are looking for trouble, even going onto the sidewalk where protesters have already obeyed their orders, then simply targeting random people, including passersby, for attack. If it weren't for citizen journalism, none of these videos would be out there. And, of course, anyone with a camera, including credentialed reporters, are being singled out with a vengeance.
     
  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    That kind of evidence would make a lawsuit very interesting.
     
  5. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

  6. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    To run a police state, you need thugs. I guess they have thugs. If a normal police officer can identify their behavior, and citizens can instantly tell the difference...well, that's telling.
     
  7. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    I've been submitting the various video's to Drudge. I don't know why I'm surprised this isn't headline material.
     
  8. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    I worked for the NYPD for 9 months. The *only* people in the NYPD who I did not get along with were the higher-ups. Why? Because all they cared about was "looking good," even if it was at the expense of providing actual security. And, at least two I suspected (but could not prove) of stealing in the form of kickbacks. The blue shirts (sergeant and below, btw) were laid back and relaxed, almost all of them "family men" or women. One was so much a "mom" type that she treated the command post like her family, bringing in cookies and such.

    However, I never saw any of the officers I worked with engaged in this kind of behavior. I can look down on people that act only to make themselves look good, and I can get angry about someone who I suspect is taking a few (tens of thousands of) dollars off the top, but I at least can *understand* why people steal. However, I fail to understand cops that for no apparent personal gain would go out and do harm to others, especially women (and yeah, it's "just as bad" when they do it to men, but it provokes a different emotional response in me). In this instance, it wasn't even a young cop all excited about his new uniform, but an experienced officer who acted very deliberately. This guy is an absolute animal, and needs to be caged.

    --Jon
     
  9. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    Sorry, cupcake, but I fail to see the connection between the NYPD and TSA.

    Wanna try again in the bonus round where the points are doubled?
     
  10. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    You don't see it because you don't want to see it. It's called "denial."
     
  11. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Let me try to explain it to you then.

    People in a position of authority over others who are abusive!
     
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  12. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Well, people in a position of authority where the police are concerned.

    In TSA's case, organisms with inflated senses of authority, but no real authority, who try to dupe people into thinking they have au-thor-i-tah for the purposes of abusing them to get their jollies.
     
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I think you're mixing apples and oranges here. The recent study showed that people who have power without status are more inclined to be abusive. That very much applies to the lower layers in TSA's hierarchy.

    A deputy NYPD inspector scarcely falls into the category of those lacking status. This guy is just evil.

    That's not saying that TSA isn't evil & must be resisted -- it is -- but the situation is different.
     
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  14. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    The only connection I made is that people grant both agencies too much deference, which results in abuse of their authority. Other than that, yes, there's a huge difference. The NYPD assaults people, while the TSA sexually assaults people. ;)

    Thought I guess the NYPD had Abner Louima and the TSA had Rolando Negrin, so apparently they do switch it up every once in a while, cupcake.
    --Jon
     
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  15. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    And we have known as such since at least 1770:

    "Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it"
    -William Pitt
     
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  16. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Apparently, the number of protesters has grown substantially overnight. I don't have any reason to believe it is due to this rogue cop's actions, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit.
     
  17. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    This makes me proud of my country again. We aren't a nation of gutless ninnies after all!
     
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  18. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    A few days ago one of my friends on FB posted a picture of a group of grannies that went to the protest. These women had to be at least 75 years old. There's lots of positive things we're seeing out there. Wish I were in NY to help (though I think I have enough protesting to do with the TSA ;)).

    --Jon
     
  19. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    There are smaller local protests organizing around numerous cities across the country just like Occupy Wall Street, in solidarity and to affect change... I've been considering taking to the streets to join them in NY & Freedom Plaza in DC on October 6 & 7 and I definitely am not a 20 something...
     
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  20. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    The denial is yours. Name ANY incident when TSOs used brute physical force to subdue anyone at a checkpoint or when TSOs used pepper spray, mace or any other similar item to subdue someone. Y'all are beginning to sound like a bunch of stark raving mad fanatics.
     

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