NYPD Officer Maces Group of Detained Women

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Affection, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Who smiles at & obviously relishes the observation that TSA is getting away with things that he could never do when he worked for the FBI. Reichskommissar John "Pissy" Pistole is simply evil.
     
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  2. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    In the grand scheme of things, what goes on at the local airport is not a major headline. If anything, these stories serve as fillers on a slow news day. It's not wishful thinking on my part. It's just an opinion based on what's consistently in the news, and TSA ain't it. It's all about the economy and government deficit. You want to believe that there's political heat on a simple pat-down procedure or body scan, and I respect your opinion. I'm just disagreeing that it's significant enough to earn its own little spot on the 2012 campaign platform. As for "entire states," it's only been two out of 50 (or 57 in ObamaLand). I admit that I could be wrong, but if I am, then it shows that it's NOT BIG NEWS. The first one was, but I bet very few, if any, can name the second state. Everyone knows Texas was the first, but that's more because Perry was a potential presidential candidate and the focus was on how HE handled that contentious issue rather than the substance of the issue itself. Your mileage may vary.

    I still maintain that it's all about political perception. Congress created TSA in the aftermath of 9/11; there hasn't been a US carrier lost since 9/11/2001; as far as Congress is concerned: problem solved. You don't mess around with "problem solved." I'm not looking for you to agree that it's "problem solved." But I would credit you for being as skeptical as I am when it comes to how politicians perceive whether or not an issue needs further handling.

    The other harsh reality is that your group is too small to really attract any politician's attention. I don't doubt that some politician will pay lip service to curbing government intrusion, the Nanny State argument, etc., but that's all meant to woo your vote based on common principle. Doesn't mean that anything is actually going to come out of it. Frequent travelers are a small fraction. You'll bitch and moan, but you'll still fly. Politicians know this and they're not going to touch it.

    It will be interesting to see how this turns out. I really don't have a dog in the fight. I'm just sharing an opinion. Like assholes, everyone has one.
     
  3. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    What one group of out of control police get by with others will do just to see if they can get by with.
     
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  4. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    And some other organizations like TSA as well, even though they're so far below police that it'd be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.
     
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  5. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I am actually pretty much in agreement with much of this. I would insist, that although impending heart surgery gets all your attention, and should, a chronic case of hemorrhoids is ultimately going to be addressed as well.
     
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  6. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    There's that good old denial thing kicking in again - it seems to serve, not well, but it serves.
     
  7. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Thought my complaint about the way TSA handled things at Midway (several months ago) went into the circular bit bucket in the sky. Seems the TSO involved with that incident has been given a harsher treatment than a hand slap. Talked to a gentleman today (with TSA) who apologized for what happened. He was in agreement that Chicago police officers have a tendency to shoot first and ask questions later. He also said that I will be getting a letter of apology as a followup to this mess.

    Complain. Complain a lot. Embarrass those who violate us in the name of security. Repeat as needed.
     
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  8. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Reposting as I'd put this in the wrong thread.

    In NYC, the transit union - the people who drive city buses - are pushing back against the NYPD. Over the weekend, the NYPD commandeered transit buses to haul all those arrested at the Brooklyn Bridge off to the hoosegow. The transit works are now saying, "no, we won't assist you in your efforts to stop this protest." ^^

    http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/03/2011-10-03_twu_blasts_city.html?r=topnews
     
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  9. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    I just heard about the transit workers' development last night. ^
     
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  10. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Saw Herr Oberführer Pistole on C-Span a couple of times. The look on his face seemed to be one of minimally suppressed hilarity-on the verge of laughing at the people who were asking the questions. If he has that much thinly veiled contempt for the people's representatives (including House and Senate) then why does he still have a job?
     
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  11. RB

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  12. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    According to Keith Olberman on tonight's Countdown, the reports of "suspension with pay" ala vacation days for this goon was incorrectly reported. It's apparently 10 days without pay. I'll see if I can find a source...
     
  13. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    I just read the article you posted, boggie, and it seems either I misunderstood Olberman, he was quoting a different source, or misunderstood this one.

    If he only lost 10 vacation days, that's lame. Totally lame. :td:
     
  14. RB

    RB Founding Member

    The cop should have been fired. Losing vacation days is nothing but an insult. I hope Olberman has it right.
     
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  15. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Fired, (expletive deleted). He should have been criminally charged.
     
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  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Hung, drawn, quartered. CelticWhisper will gladly drive the horses that tear him asunder. :D
     
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  17. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    If CW is unwilling or unable to do the deed, I will volunteer. A firing squad is too good for this goon...too humane!
     
  18. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    I'm thinkin' "William Wallace" here. Only instead of "Freedom" he'd be shouting "Respect my authoritAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!"

    *ahem*

    Time for my meds.
     
  19. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    The problem with letting *ssh*les like this get away with this kind of conduct is that it drives people to take the law into their own hands. In news articles about this I saw more than one comment to the effect that, gee, I could walk right up to that guy and mace HIM in the face.... Of course, why stop at mace?

    Law is a wonderful thing. But it is destroyed when people in power effectively exempt themselves from it.
     
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  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    More: And go he should, if he was the Devil himself, until he broke the law!
    Roper: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law!
    More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
    Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
    More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast– man's laws, not God's– and if you cut them down—and you're just the man to do it—do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.

    -Paul Scofield as Sir Thomas More in "A Man for All Seasons"
     

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