NYPD Testing Gun-Scanning Technology

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Doober, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    How do the NYC cops get away with "stop and frisk" which this technology is allegedly going to replace?
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I believe the answer is Terry.
  3. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    The lawsuits are wending their way through the courts.

    A lot of the cases are based on alleged racial profiling. If the courts agree that the stops are based on racial profiling and not on any kind of reasonable suspicion, the practice will stop.

    Also... some of the articles I've read on the subject point to people not knowing their rights. If a cop comes up to you and says 'empty your pockets', you don't have to do it. I understand that it's a very intimidating experience to have a cop come up to you like that, but the correct response from you should be "am I being detained?" If the cop says 'no', then you're free to leave - and you should do so.

    A lot of people just empty their pockets, and if they have drugs or weapons they get arrested. They've consented to the search.
  4. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    And wait to be shot in the back - I say that only half in jest.
  5. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    No, I know. It's a huge risk.
  6. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Shouldn't be. Could be undercover cop or ccw holder
  7. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    I think she was referring to the situation of being a person of color and asking the cop if you're being detained, and if the cop says 'no' you walk away.

    I could easily see how a cop would just shoot that person and then make up a story about how the guy was trying to flee. That's the risk.
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  8. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    But the good news is that when this is deployed, we will see an increase in cop-on-cop shootings, NYPD being what it is.
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  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The answer is not Terry. The NYPD conducts stop & frisks that are completely outside the law & the Constitution.
  10. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Given the number of NYPD officers that are on the take or operating outside the law (e.g. these unconstitutional stop & frisks), this could actually be an effective crime reduction program.

    Unfortunately when you give Bonzo high tech tools as well as guns, the current situation with collateral damage will get even worse.

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