Once more with feeling: TSA finds anomaly in granny's crotch

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Men's News Daily: The TSA And Your Mother-In-Law’s Crotch

    I think I've temporarily run out of quips for how dumb these people are, not to mention how insenstive and totally void of tact.
     
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

  3. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I know this isn't the correct thread - I can't find the one where one of our members asked about being put in a clear box and she thought she might have been scanned. Members here thought it was one of those penalty boxes. But I received this from one of my friends this morning and now I'm wondering about what really happened in that clear box. Sorry I couldn't find the original post. Here is the email:

    I was going to write you to let you know how our TSA experience went. It was actually better than most. We went through Milwaukee. They were walking every single person through the scanner. No one was an exception, although I would think if you asked for it you could have had a pat down. But these were new machines. You didn't walk through the black boxes to pose as usual. This was a glass room that was clear. It spun around you in about 2 seconds and you walked out. The people were VERY friendly. When I got through, I turned around to watch and you could see the screen they were looking at. It still had me on there. It was stick outline, like you see on a chalk drawing. There was still a little yellow square on my chest where she did tell me she saw something. It must have been part of my bra. I can live with a chalk drawing. It was certainly faster than the back boxes you used to have to stand between to show yourself nude.
     
  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Did she touch you to resolve that?
     
  5. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    Yes, did she touch her and was it quicker than a WTMD?
     
  6. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    She didn't say anyone touched her after the scan but I will email her and ask that specific question.
     
  7. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    What she is describing sounds like MMW but victims weren't required to "assume the position."
     
  8. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    Correct on not having to assume the position. She said it took about 2 seconds. She is on vacation so is not checking her email regularly but I did email her and asked if after the "square" was detected on her chest if she then had to have a pat down.

    I have a question - would you be exposed to the same levels of radiation in the box she described as you would in the "strike the pose" type of scanners?
     
  9. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Well, if it was MMW (millimeter wave), there would be no radiation. The backscatter scanners use radiation.
     
  10. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I heard back from my friend. She said:

    The lady just very lightly ran the back of her hand down the area where the square was. But it was above the bra.

    What concerns me is that EVERYONE in that particular security line was chosen to go through that type of scanner. Are these scanners going to eventually replace even the metal detectors?
     
  11. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Which means they'll run their hands wherever the square is , including genitals. @ssholes. Always a false alarm. Always.
     
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  12. But if it's a crotch square, they also now apparently demand details about your continence and/or menstrual cycle, loud enough for everyone to hear.
     
  13. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    Yes, their plan, despite their public statements, is to replace every WTMD with a nude scanner. Also, 99.9% of the positives on the nude-o-scopes are false positives and will require groping to "verify". Accepting the scanners, in any way, shape or form is an acceptance of false security and an outright attack on our rights and liberties.
     
  14. Problem is, if they get rid of the WTMD's, how will the screen young children and people carrying babies? They've changed their policies so that kids generally get a pass and get to go through the WTMD; if they get rid of the WTMD that would mean, what, automatic patdowns for little kids? That's not going to fly.

    ETA: And crew members, and the elite, and anybody else who gets a pass. Really? Not send those people through the WTMD at all? I'm sure their intention is to get rid of the WTMD altogether, but I can't see how it would work at this stage.
     
  15. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    the crotch square is their wildcard. They can do anything they want. Grope you, question you, humiliate you, it's up to them. That is EXACTLY why the founders put in the 4th amendment. They didn't want things left up to the whims of a government (Crown) puke as to whether you'd be molested or not. And we put up with this from the lowest element of our society.
     
  16. You say some poetic things, but this one is sublime.:p
     
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  17. Bungnoid

    Bungnoid Original Member

    Well, strictly speaking with MMW there is radiation--in the radio wave/microwave portion of the electromagnetic spectrum--and low intensity. It is not ionizing radiation as is the case with the backscatter x-ray scanner, but it is technically still radiation.
     
  18. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    That was always the plan, from the beginning, despite their protestations to the contrary. I was saying this at the Cogblog two years ago and getting slammed for it. Now we see the proof.
     
  19. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Yes. I should've said ionizing radiation.
     
  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I can't see them getting rid of them altogether, since when the scanners don't work, which happens often, they send everyone through the metal detectors. AND when the lines get too long, they also start sending them through the WTMD, because the scanners take longer. So I'm guessing they'll always be there as a back-up. (Or maybe our overlords will just buy more scanners!)
     

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