Passenger could be asked to give drink samples to TSA

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Monica47, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    http://www.kjct8.com/news/Passenger...o-TSA/-/163152/15394098/-/2eprat/-/index.html

    They understand why drinks are not allowed through security, but when they buy one while they wait for their flight, they say the TSA should not ask to test it.

    "The water or or the juices or anything you buy here in the airport, TSA is going to come over and look and check and test it? That's just ridiculous," world traveler Thomas Burgard said.

    We asked the TSA about the drink testings and they said, "TSA employees have many layers of security throughout airports. Passengers may be randomly selected for additional screening measures at the checkpoint or in the gate at any time."
     
  2. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    It's one think to "give a sample" of a beverage to the TSA twits. It's another thing for the TSA twits to contaminate the food and beverages of hapless citizens. When the TSA twits demand to be allowed to swab people's beverage containers or dip their little test strips into the victim's open drink, that beverage is contaminated. If the fascist scum want to steal food and drink, then let them go ahead and be honest about the "confiscation." Contaminating the beverage and then leaving the victim stuck with the task of discarding his/her now undrinkable beverage adds insult to injury.
     
  3. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    If I were ever in the position of being told my drink purchased in the "sterile" area had to be checked by the TSA, I would hope that I could remember to accidentally drop it at the feet of the screener.
     
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  4. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I'd just hand it over politely and walk away. If they're going to render it unfit for human consumption, then disposal is their problem.
     
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  5. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Hasn't TSA maintained that all items introduced to the sterile area have been screened? Something sounds fishy.
     
  6. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    This is nothing new. The TSA has repeatedly flexed its muscles by periodically harassing and even assaulting passengers who have already been screened. Sending some officious busybody with swabs around the "sterile" area to contaminate the food and drink of hapless travelers is not a new practice. I think they invented this "task" as busywork for their least competent employees.

    Since the TSA is too lazy and incompetent to screen the army of workers and huge volume of products moving into the "sterile area" each and every day, then obviously the area is in no way "sterile." It would make sense for the TSA to screen the products, retail and food service employees moving to and from the "sterile" area. Because it would make sense, we can be sure it will never happen on the TSA's watch. Screening appropriately behind the scenes doesn't make for good theatre. The show must go on.

    Transportation Showmanship Administration may be the most apt title for these maroons.
     
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  7. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    It's called "make work."
     
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  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    It's called power and control.
     
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  9. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Right, so instead of plugging the source of the leak, let's hire more painters to dress up the drip bucket.

    I'm not really surprised.
     
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  10. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    I read about stuff like this, and wonder just how incredibly stupid the cretins at TSA could be. It seems their idiocy knows no bounds.

    Elizabeth Conley discuss the "swabbing" of drinks and food in the "sterile" areas of airports. I have neither seen nor experienced the "swabbing" procedure myself. However, I have read countless incidents of clerks waving some kind of pH strip above drinks to catch some type of mysterious vapor. Either way, I have no doubt that all manner of contamination is performed. After all, doesn't everybody want to be safe?!?!?!?!!? Let's ignore for the moment that this entire procedure is stupid on its face, regardless of the method.

    There was a little nugget revealed about liquids, and it seems this particular procedure specifically, in a recent "interview"/book review of Chief Idiot Kip Hawley's new book that I haven't really seen discussed.

    We already have a thread discussing a book review online discussion between Chief Idiot Hawley and security expert Bruce Schneier, but this little piece really stands out to me. And it frankly holds up as the ultimate stupidity in all that TSA does.

    In response to a question from Schneier:

    Hawley's response (in particular to the 3rd question) is quite interesting:

    In all of the countless reports and stories, has anyone ever heard of an ":rolleyes:fficer" opening the baggie to release vapors onto a test strip. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Crickets? Thought so.

    So TSA's grand plan all along has been to force liquid bombs into baggies so that vapors would collect and they could detect them that way? Are you (expletive deleted) kidding me? Terrorists are smarter than this. Way smarter than this. They'll leave the damn zipper open so the vapors escape on their own. Besides, TSA has never, ever tested liquids limited in this way in this manner. Never.

    I imagine the screening management at airports really is this stupid. They have a directive to test liquid vapors for bombs. So instead of using these strips for their intended purpose at the checkpoint as described here by Hawley, they've got their merry brigade of blue shirted morons racing through the terminals waving them and swabbing them over supposedly already screened liquids. Seriously? This is who is our last defense in national security? The left hand here clearly has no idea what the right is doing. I have never heard of anything so incredibly stupid in my entire life. From concept to testing, theory, and all the way to implementation TSA couldn't do one.single.thing right. Not one.

    They have a procedure that is first and foremost ridiculous on its face, based on an implausible theory, carried out by idiots who don't even know what they're doing, managed by morons who either don't understand the directive or don't know what's going on under their own noses, to mitigate a threat that isn't even feasible.

    My God, if I wasn't avoiding flying to avoid the TSA all together already, I'd now be avoiding flying because TSA makes flying less safe on so many levels I can't even comprehend it.
     
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  11. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Another site has a thread on the subject of waving strips over liquids to "capture" peroxides. The experts say it can't be done.

    http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/checkpoints-borders-policy-debate/1355926-testing-eye-drops.html

    The resident TSA "expert" over there - and you know who I mean - insists it can be done.
     
  12. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Um, yeah, OK. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    It doesn't matter. The sheeple believe it will keep them safer -- my god, look at the comment from that passenger quoted in the article; he thinks it might be excessive, but he still supports the premise -- so it will be used. Just like the "random" searches at the gate, after people have already been cleared at the checkpoint. It's all (expletive deleted), and millions of people are lapping it up. Sorry, but that isn't a mixed metaphor.
     
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  14. yautjalady

    yautjalady Original Member

    I would chug my drink right then and there.....

    And ask em if I could strain it thru my kidneys first
     
  15. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    someone on that site (bubbaloop) who knows about peroxides shut that person up. Evidently, there's no way for the TSA to claim that the test strips work on peroxides else the TSA shill would have returned to the fray. Just another TSA lie that cannot stand up in broad daylight.
     
  16. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    RED ALERT- "you have interfered with the screening process"-RED ALERT
    Amerika is in danger!

    ;)
     
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  17. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Right, even though you have excellent points, I'm sure the robot PR will still insist that all agents are trained to uphold the procedures to the highest standard.

    And if any agent was found to be in error *gasp!* the passengers must be punished.

     
  18. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Holy (expletive deleted), I got 60 Likes on my comment at that article. I've never gotten 60 Likes before. Tide is turning? I'll believe it when I see it.
     
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  19. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Lots of hits on this in Google news today. People are not happy about being asked to share their $5 airport drinks with TSA' overweight & undereducated perverts.
     
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