Pistole at Senate hearing: "Next Steps for Securing Rail and Transit" 2011-06-22 10:00 Eastern

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by pmocek, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. pmocek

    pmocek Original Member

    TSA Administrator John Pistole is scheduled to be a panelist at a United States Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs hearing tomorrow (Wednesday, June 22, 2011) at 10:00 a.m. US/Eastern:

    Members of the committee are:
  2. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Okay, once again showing my lack of experience - what's the significance of this? I'm assuming it's a fancy pow-wow and isn't going to influence the passing of any legislation that's currently under way, is it?
  3. pmocek

    pmocek Original Member

    Beats me, but it sounds like something for those of us who are concerned about TSA's path of increasing lawlessness, particularly in regards to their moves into rail and other public transit systems, to pay attention to. It sounds like it will be the head of TSA talking to the committee of our elected representatives who are (I think) most likely to provide oversight of TSA about TSA's plans for the future.
  4. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Saw the tail end of that hearing. Pistole was doing his best to keep from sporting an ear to ear grin. The contempt the guy had towards the senators was extrodinary. Listened to some of Pistole's answers. Non-answers and lots of dodging the bullet. Absolutely nothing of any significance.
  5. pmocek

    pmocek Original Member

    The hearing is scheduled for tomorrow morning.
  6. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Okay, the one I caught on CSPAN must have been an old one. Sorry.
  7. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Report from the hearing today indicates:

    "The government has made a change in its policy for patting down young children at airport checkpoints, and more are promised."

    Sadly, the article from the AJC is scant on details. It does show, though, that the pressure is having some effect, if too little for my liking.

    Pistole clearly wants to continue to use imaging. Imaging. Imaging. Again, with imaging the haystack is way. too. big. and they are going to miss something. Though, IMHO it doesn't matter because the threat of terrorism is so small the current level of screening is absurd, useless, and wasteful.
  8. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    This made NBC Nightly News this evening. One of the dogs was barking all through the segment but it seemed as if NBC was finally coming around to realizing that the traveling public is fed up with the TSA. Even Tom Costello didn't editorialize in favor of TSA's actions.

    The segment made it look as if all pat downs were going to be reviewed but then at the end put up a statement by TSA clarifying its policy: pat downs for children will be modified - but not eliminated. But we've heard that before, haven't we?

    The best part of the segment was mention of the Texas proposed legislation to rein in the pat downs - this is the first I have heard it mentioned in a nation-wide media outlet. Mention was made also of the government's threat to shut down air traffic.

    Again, I apologize if I got some of this wrong. Blame the dog.
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  9. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    I guess even a dog can tell there's something wrong with TSA! :D:D
  10. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Update: on the morning news - during which the dog was not barking - it was said that the new procedure for children will require pat downs only if the parent(s) alarms.

    My question: if a parent refuses WBI, does that constitute an alarm that will require a pat down of the child?

    Photos/videos were briefly on the screen of the pat down of the 6 year old, the baby getting its bottom checked as well as the poor old gentleman supporting himself on two canes while being patted down. Wish they'd kept that on the screen longer.
  11. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Now we need to make sure the response is heard loud and clear: NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

    I plan on writing to Schakowsky, Durbin and Kirk regarding this to let them know that "modifying" (not eliminating) the patdown procedure for one tiny subset of the population (not everyone), a subset which is the most obvious cause of outrage, is pathetic lip-service and basically a "Shut up, that's why" answer.

    My question is this: in the case of Durbin, who I finally heard back from (see my response thread), do I weave this into my reply to his reply or do I write it as a separate letter?
  12. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member

    This so called change is completely useless.

    Where are my pitchforks?
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  13. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    Don't you need to drive a stake through the heart? Or is it silver bullets? I can never remember... ;)
  14. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    No, it's like Osiris. You have to cut the body into 14 pieces and bury them throughout the land.
  15. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    Good to know. My, the internet certainly is educational. :D
  16. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member


    No, it's gonna take millions of us marching on Washington, DC with torches and pitchforks for the politicians to wake up and remember they work for We The People, and not K Street.
  17. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Tar & feathers are much more entertaining. :)

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