Pistole's power grab

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by KrazyKat, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Mursi's Pistole's power grab, as he is above the oversight and daylight of Congress, where he was to invited to appear for a hearing 11/29/12. Thanks to InfoWars for this nugget.
    Pistole:

    The hearing will have the IG and the author of the recent GAO report.
    The TSA doesn't want to appear and defend themselves, because they don't have to. They're above those little people...
     
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  2. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I hope those MOC take notice of how cooperative Pistole is.
     
  3. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    I believe we have seen this before from Pistole.

    What can those of you from Texas tell us about Michael McCaul who has been recommended to be the new chair of the House Committee on Homeland Security? Is he as much an (expletive deleted) as King?
     
  4. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I hope that Pistole and Congress do go head to head, treating each other with as much contempt and general disrespect as possible.

    The American people have begged, screamed, pleaded and cried to Congress to rescue us from Pistole, all to no avail. Maybe if our derilict congressmen are personally insulted, they'll finally do something to protect the rest of us.
     
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  5. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Perhaps I just answered my own question:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2012/11/84352.html

    Sadly, McCaul does not believe that Pistole needs to go.

    His fax number in DC is 202.225.5955 for those who would like to try to persuade him otherwise.
     
  6. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Mica's committee is not the committee responsible for TSA oversight. So Pistole is correct legally. Politically, it's shortsighted and doesn't play well to the general public because it's disrespectful to the people who elected these reps to run the government. One more illustration that the federal apparatus is becoming less and less responsive to the people. THEY are in charge, after all, not the people....
     
  7. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    More and more people are becoming aware that the government is no longer "...of the people, by the people, for the people."
     
  8. saulblum

    saulblum Original Member

    It's a cliché, but what are all these people doing about it?

    230 years ago those who felt this way were willing to give their lives to fight it.

    I don't see that resolve in today's nation.
     
  9. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Most of them are doing absolutely nothing. A smaller number are posting things on the Internet and changing their voting habits. An even smaller number are taking up various levels of activism, like the folks in that lovely thread about Deputy Stan.
     
  10. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    OK, so maybe it's more of a power snub. Zero for three appearing before an interested House subcommittee.

    From the Washington Post:http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...f3a458-3a5b-11e2-b01f-5f55b193f58f_story.html

    Subcommittee members were asked to imagine TSA in polo shirts.
     
  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

  12. Doober

    Doober Original Member

  13. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    I think a lot of the comments were a result of even greater disdain for Congress than the TSA. There will always be the Sheeple, especially in conformist and homogenized Metro Washington DC.
     
  14. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Definitely a snub, and I'm not sure that Pissy gained anything from it. The backlash appears to be getting increasingly nasty.
     
  15. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    I have been in discussions involving testifying or otherwise responding to a committee which is not one's authorizing or appropriating committee. ALL of these discussions, including dialogue with congressional staffers, were private. We always consulted our authorizing committees for guidance. If we disagreed, we would consult our committees and ask for help or top cover. It took an extraordinary set of circumstances for any of us to even consider recommending that we decline the invitation to testify in front of any congressional committee. More often than not, we saw these requests as an opportunity to bring our messages and opinions directly to Members who ordinarily didn't interact with us.

    Pissy's arrogance knows no bounds. I have never seen an agency head go public with a dispute with Congress and get away with it. I think there are a couple of reasons:

    1. Nobody above him has any desire to call him on the carpet and rip him a new one. The primary reason is party. I would have to believe if the democrats controlled the House, there would have even no hearings at all.

    2. Pissy has the top cover of that Blowhard, Peter King, who has publicly lashed out at Mica. Pissy took full advantage. I blame Boehner for lack of leadership. He can't even keep his committee chairmen in line.

    3. The TSA will still get their rubber-stamped budget passed by the House even if every member of Mica's subcommittee votes against it, so, there is no threat.
     
  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    WSB is the ABC affiliate in Atlanta. Coverage like this will only help fuel the backlash ...

    WSB TV: TSA skips hearing on inappropriate pat-downs

    Congress had some hard questions for the Transportation Security Administration after a security worker disrobed a 17-year-old girl during an airport pat-down. Channel 2's Scott MacFarlane broke the story about the investigation but has found out Congress still isn't getting answers from the TSA. The girl was traveling with a youth group from a Christian school in Texas and was wearing a sundress. During a pat-down, the girl's dress slipped. Her breasts were exposed in a terminal at the Los Angeles airport. The girl is the niece of a Texas congressman. In a U.S. House hearing Thursday, Rep. John Mica, R-Fla., wanted to know how it happened.

    ...

    But TSA's top administrator, John Pistole, couldn't answer the question because he didn't appear. The TSA snubbed the House Transportation Committee's investigation of aviation security and pat-downs Thursday.
     
  17. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

  18. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Now that the blue-clad wastrels have a union, expect to see more Astroturfing.

    After all, if they lose their "job" with the TSA, they have nowhere to go.
     
  19. RB

    RB Founding Member


    In your first link is a picture of a TSA TDC FO checking ID. Why do they need protective gloves to do that? I would guess that nitrile gloves cost a few cents each so why waste that money on unneeded workers?

    edit to add: I would have thought Pissy was smart enough to know that biting the hand that feeds you is stupid. On second thought it kinda fits I think.
     
  20. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Today they would be called terrorists and prosecuted.

    I prefer to see them in orange jumpsuits, picking up roadside trash.
     

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