Pizza-box special rejects MN senior's state-issued ID card

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Star Tribune: State ID is wrongly rejected at airport

    Minnesota IDs issued to senior citizens don't expire.
     
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Unbelievable. These people are morons. Hear that, DHS/TSA spies?? Your employees are morons.
     
  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    The only people still unaware of that fact are working for the TSA.

    Even the morons that don't work for the TSA look down on the TSA's morons.
     
  4. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    So a Trained Document Checker in Florida doesn't know what a Minnesota ID looks like? Come on, it's not like a lot of retired people from the north go to Florida this time of year. :rolleyes::confused:
     
  5. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

     
  6. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Are you insinuating that a common bouncer at a bar is a better ID checker than the high trained TSA agent held to the highest level of standard who always properly follows procedures?!! *gasp:eek:
     
  7. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Calling Pedosmurfs morons is an insult to real ARC clients.
     
  8. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Yes cause I have seen it done ad nauseum, and not one has been caught by Thousends Standing Around, and there charlaton BDOs. It would be sad if it wasnt so funny, yet all of my bartender/bouncer friends picked out the fakes everytime.
     
  9. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Yes. The bouncer's job is dependent on getting it right. If he's wrong, he'll be fired - unlike the hydrocephalic primates employed by the TSA.
     
  10. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    More than 10 years ago the state of Washington decided that anyone serving alcohol had to take a state sponsored class at their own expense to obtain a Class 12 or Class 13 liquor license. These classes were 4 hours long and a great amount of time was spent on determining what form of ID was acceptable and which was not. There was a test and if you didn't pass it you didn't get a license and without a license you couldn't work as a server or bartender in any establishment that served alcohol. These licenses had an expiration date which had to be renewed by taking the class again. If you made a mistake on an ID and served someone underage and got caught - well, you got fired. Considering the TSA is "our first defense" regarding safety, one would think they would get more training regarding ID's than bartenders and servers in a restaurant - but apparently not.
     
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  11. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    One would think.

    However, regardless of what TSA says, ID proves nothing. For instance, I was boarding a flight a few months ago out of MSP. They were looking at ID's as people boarded the flight. That's it. Didn't match it to a boarding pass, didn't look up the name. Nothing. Glance at ID, on your way.

    But TSA doesn't train on how to effectively spot a fake ID. What TSA does train on is the importance of glorifying their jobs over the deaths of 3,000 innocent Americans.
     
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  12. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Around here if a beverage server screws up and serves a minor not only is the server in legal jeopardy but the establishment can loose its alcohol license.
     
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  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Does it even matter? The 9/11 hijackers all had valid IDs. They were hiding in plain sight.

    Historically checking ID's is done for the purpose of the airline's revenue protection. When they started issuing non-refundable discounted tickets, they began checking IDs to prevent them from being resold to 3rd parties. It had nothing to do with security.
     
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  14. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Just another reason why this requirement is so silly. What is the purpose of looking at the ID if you don't match it to the boarding pass? (just a rhetorical question)
     
  15. RB

    RB Founding Member

    TSA compares the ID to boarding pass but what does that really prove security wise?

    To be an effective security step the ID would have to be compared to the various watch lists. Even then if the person is properly screened for WEI then no threat will be present when the person is contained inside the cabin of the airplane.

    ID checking by TSA is a massive waste of manpower and tax dollars with absolutely no Security Benefit return.
     
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