Pussy Riot Closing Statements, translated into English

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by phoebepontiac, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. I haven't read these thoroughly yet, but in skimming I have found some very interesting thoughts about freedom from these women:

    Pussy Riot Closing Statements

    A couple gems:

     
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    So who are they (sorry, your post seemed interesting yet totally out of context)?


    Ah, hooliganism! Good old commie traditions at their finest! :D Stuff like this is to be expected when you put the ex head of the KGB in charge of the joint.
     
  3. Sorry, I thought Pussy Riot was well enough known... they're huge folk heroines in Russia right now.
     
  4. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Their closing statement is great - and this especially resonates with me -- "Today’s educational institutions teach people, from childhood, to live as automatons. Not to pose the crucial questions consistent with their age. They inculcate cruelty and intolerance of nonconformity. Beginning in childhood, we forget our freedom."

    I've always had mixed feelings about Madonna, but I'm glad she wrote their names on her back.

    Here's hoping that there's been enough international pressure/exposure that they get a 'not guilty' verdict. I'm not holding my breath, but I'm hoping!
     
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  5. What I like is that they've put the Russian government in a bind. If they ladies are not guilty, they made their point. If they're guilty, they also made their point about Putin's regime, and the world knows it.
     
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  6. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Yepper! :)
     
  7. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I'd rather they not have desecrated a church with their antics. But yeah, the statement about people being trained to be unthinking automatons, that's resonating with me too. And you know what? Here in the US too.
     
  8. Well, me too somewhat, on the church desecration thing. But I have to admit I don't fully grasp the extent to which the church has been in bed with the government in post-Soviet Russia. If it's as bad as I suspect, I could be convinced it was the right thing to do.
     
  9. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    They stood up in church and sang an anti-Putin song. That's a far cry from "desecration" unless they actually did damage.

    That's right up there with the beatdown of a 71-year old man who called out VP Wannabe Ryan on his plans for Social Security.
     
  10. What they did and the way they were dressed may well be desecration by Russian Orthodox standards. But I'm not sure.

    ETA: As I read it through, I think you're right -- they're being accused not of desecration but of blasphemy.
     
  11. I'm reading it through, and I found another good passage, appropos to our interests here at TUG:

     
  12. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Perhaps the "on the altar" part of the description gives some an inaccurate picture. In churches (often Catholic) where it's been "turned" to face the congregation it's usually not large enough for five people to climb up on. Traditional altars would often be difficult to climb up on.

    I read this more as meaning "at the altar" rather than "on the altar", which turns out to be the case. Here is a YouTube video (all in Russian) of the event:

    Not understanding Russian, I can't comment on what they're saying/singing but for a political protest staged at a church this doesn't seem all that out of line. If something like this had happened before 1989, it might even have been remembered as landmark protest.​
     
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

  14. By the way, a friend of mine wrote what I thought was an excellent column about the cultural significance of Pussy Riot in the Moscow News a few months back:
    Pussy Riot prove punk’s not dead
    by Vladimir Kozlov
    FYI, I think the "dick" part is run-of-the-mill Russian profanity, which doesn't translate quite right. It basically just adds a little vulgar emphasis, and I suspect rhymes with something (I haven't looked at the lyrics in Russian but I probably should).
     
  15. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Reuters: Russia's female punk band protesters sentenced to two years

    Three women from the Russian punk band Pussy Riot were sentenced to two years in jail on Friday for their protest in a church against President Vladimir Putin, an outcome supporters described as the Kremlin leader's "personal revenge". The group's backers burst into chants of "Shame" outside the Moscow courthouse and said the case showed Putin's refusal to tolerate dissent in his new six-year term as president. Dozens were detained as tensions rose and scuffles broke out. The United States and the European Union condemned the sentence as disproportionate and asked for it to be reviewed, although state prosecutors had demanded a three-year jail term and the maximum sentence possible was seven years.
     
  16. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Sorry but their name just cracks me up. They should get two years just for that.
     

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