Received My First Body Scan and I Am Okay With It

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Seattle Post Intelligencer: Received My First Body Scan and I Am Okay With It

    I think I'm going to be violently ill.

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  2. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Someone is clearly unaware of the realities of the situation. How does the writer know that there is no one in a room viewing the naked image? Sheep are very trusting creatures, which explains why there are lamb chops.
     
  3. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    Whew! I read that first that YOU had your first body scan and that you were ok with it! :eek:

    Considering that there are errors and oversights in this 'article' I don't have much faith in the person who wrote this.

    This sounds like a US bound flight, most likely on a US carrier. And AMS does permit one to opt out. I really don't understand why the author believes that what he encountered was so positive. Yes, the calibre of employee is generally far higher than in the US but that is common around the world.

    He mistakenly believes that everyone must be scanned, and he appears to believe that is a good thing. He also seems to believe that the 'interview' is common to everyone, not just on US bound flights, and seems to think that is a good thing as well.

    Anything for safety, after all!
     
  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    who is this nimrod? Good grief...
     
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  5. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    And not to be petty, but the grammar is frankly poor and I am mildly surprised that a newspaper would publish something with such poor grammar.
     
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  6. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    I imagine a well-written, grammatically accurate anti-NoS piece would probably get a pass...
     
  7. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Given the state of the print news media these days, he may have been a writer. USA Today is notorious for misspellings, bad grammar and the incorrect use of words.
     
  8. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    This seems to be the rule rather than the exception. I can't tell you how many poorly written articles I've suffered through recently.
     
  9. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    You mean like the Lamb Chop on TV with someone's hand stuck up their butt, working their mouth? :confused:
     
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  10. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    Is that still on TV ?
     
  11. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Shari Lewis died a while back, but her daughter still does the Lamb Chop thing at state fairs and stuff. No TV series that I'm aware of any more.
     
  12. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    It is amazing that a sock can have such a long career - I used to watch that soooooooo many years ago.

    Ok, back on Topic....

    I can't understand why sheep behave the way they do.

    "Everyone was required to be scanned and I never felt that my privacy was being violated." - only because you are stupid.
     
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  13. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member



    From "America's Sweethearts" - "No! There's only been one genius in this business, and that was Señor Wences! A little lipstick, some hair, and his hand, and the guy had a career for eighty-five years! 'S'aright!'




    It's because they're sheep. They're more interested in feeling safe than in actually being safe, and they're more than happy to sacrifice their rights, your rights, and my rights just to get that warm fuzzy feeling.

    Human beings are inherently bad at gauging risk. The average sheep has no idea that they're orders of magnitude more likely to be killed by an idiot texting while driving on the freeway than to killed (or even injured!) in a "terrorist event." They're almost infinitely more likely to have something stolen from their baggage by a TSA employee than to suffer any effect at all from a "terrorist event" while traveling. But they don't care, because they prefer the illusion.
     
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  14. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    No, just reminiscing...

    ETA (on topic): What you said about the sheeple is so true. I wish there was some way to wake them up. Maybe it will take torches and pitch-forks!
     
  15. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    God one would hope, but i will believe it when i see it.
     
  16. gojirasan

    gojirasan Original Member

    Remind me again of what is so terrible about the mmw NoS with ATR. No naked image and no ionizing radiation. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. The only thing that might worry me is the possibility of a post-scan genital or invasive grope if the machine alerts.
     
  17. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    No naked image... according to the organization that has repeatedly lied to the American public (and other travelers) about their own policies and procedures, and apparently vets their employees by how easily they can lie to anyone.

    Just because the image they're showing the traveler is a stick figure doesn't mean that the real image isn't shown to someone or even stored elsewhere.

    The TSA and their entire collective of employees have proven themselves to be wholly unworthy of trust or respect, and the organization should be de-funded, disbanded, and outlawed. Anyone currently working for the TSA should be ostracized at a minimum.
     
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  18. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    In principle, I agree there is nothing terrible about the MMW with ATR. Psychologically, having to assume the surrender position is demeaning, however. Added to that is the fact that our government seems to believe that the threat to aviation is so great that passage through one or being sexually groped is the only way we can gain access to an airplane - that's what so terrible.
     
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  19. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Gojirasan, it took me nearly 10 years to figure out what was wrong with the TSA. At first I thought the whole dog and pony show was silly, but harmless. Now I see that any infringement on Americans' Constitutional Rights, however slight, is a grave risk to our Republic.

    I have adopted a zero tolerance policy over the last 10 years of watching the Unpatriot Act eviscerate Americans' Constitutional Rights. If the DHS wasn't so thuggish, I might have never woke up.

    Too bad; so sad. I'm awake now.

    It all goes. Every single unconstitutional behavior, rule or practice will be scuttled. The thuggish practitioners will find new jobs. Their fascist leaders will never hold public office again. I will not affect this alone. No laws will be broken. These changes will come because I am not the only American who has awakened. We will not put up with our Federal Parasite's whims any longer.

    PS: If we fail to set this nation back on track, the best and brightest of Americans will simply leave:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/end-of-rule-of-law-in-the-united-states-2011-10

    So yes, the "soft assault" of the MMW NoS with ATR is unacceptable because it's a 4th amendment violation. Period - full stop. We will return to the rule of law in the United States. We will return to the rule of law ASAP. Compromise with the nanny state has proved to be a grave error. We will not make it again.
     
  20. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Two deal killers:

    1. Privacy issue -- under the 4th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, they have no business going under my clothes in any way, shape or form without probable cause. Period. Stop. End of story.

    2. We don't know what the long term effects of repeated microwave radiation are. Cell phones are on the verge of requiring radiation warnings. Whatever makes anyone think that MMW is really "safe"?
     

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