Reports on BDO questions in Boston

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Cartoon Peril, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Sign NO Speak.
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    No sign, sorry!

    But my first written response might be, "ich lese Deutsch" og "snakker du norsk?"
  3. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Have you changed what you are carrying in your bag? Any large or dense items? Large metal items in the bag? Sometimes adding just one item to the mix can result in more bag checks. We had a guy that flew almost twice a week and he added a small paper weight that he carried because he worked in windy locations a lot, and after adding that to this bag, he was checked every time after that. After about a month, he worked with us asking why, and we let him know what the item was, now he simply removes it from the bag and runs it separately, and 99% of the time, no bag checks.
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  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I had that issue w/ when I carried rolls of coins for the Chicago toll booths. I just started putting them in the tubs separately.

    Eventually I got smart & had MapQuest map out a toll-free route to minimize my exposure to both clerks & bandits.
  5. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Rock bands have it especially tough these days.
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  6. INK

    INK Original Member

    A thread about my carry on bag is here. I would say that there are some dense items there.
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  7. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Duh, not very observant today! Already commented there on it. I will politely bow my head in shame and slink back to my corner.:oops:
  8. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Don't do that!

    I, for one, like to read your posts! :)
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  9. FriendlySkies

    FriendlySkies Member

    I ran into that problem with my camera bag. Four lenses, the camera body, batteries, the charger, etc.. Got two or three secondaries.
  10. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Me too, seems like if TSA wanted to get its point across, Rugape's intelligent and respectful commentary would be the way to do it.
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  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    As with the gropes, it's being "tested" at a couple of airports first, before a national roll-out (the gropes were "tested" at Boston and Las Vegas in Jan/Feb of 2010). This is the way they operate. They see how much sh*t people are willing to put up with before implementing it nationwide. As we've discussed in other threads, it was the same way internment of Japanese-Americans was accomplished during WWII. First "tested" at Bainbridge Island, seen to be successful, then instituted throughout the country. This bs BDO questioning will become standard procedure everywhere.

    P.S. I just got back from a great biz trip to Boston -- by train.
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  12. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Gives a new meaning to the phrase "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere".

    BTW, if they're looking for "microexpressions", shouldn't a control question be used first, such as "what is your favorite color"? Or would that be too Monty Python?
  13. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Cartoon Peril, there you go using cartoon logic again. :rolleyes:

    The TSA is not interested in using the Scientific Method. They are looking for "terrorists" and there are "terrorists" around every corner, according to them. All they need is an aberrant response. That's enough to tell them that one needs extra groping, extra attention, additional questions, and a possible time out with a LEO. It's a recipe for abuse, plain and simple.

    Frankly I imagine a lot of these "involuntary physiological responses" they speak of are akin to those a person dreading the whole security apparatus might rightly exhibit. So, basically, if TSA has roughed you up before, and you are nervous about it, you are likely to get roughed up again. That's awesome. :td:
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  14. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Just for a little while! I am not going anywhere soon (that I know of anyway).:)
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  15. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Waitaminit..... You mean I can't actually fall off of a cliff and bounce or make a hole, then get up and stagger away drunkenly? Next thing you know, you will be telling me that I can't have an anvil fall on my head and walk away "accordion style" with my hands dragging the ground...
  16. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    It would look more like this (hilariously over-the-top, but still not for the squeamish):
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  17. RB

    RB Founding Member

    We can try if you're up for it.:D
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  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    We only have one anvil in the back room, and it's reserved for TSORon.
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  19. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Right - but which TSA clerk is that ball peen hammer reserved for?
  20. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I don't recall seeing one used in any cartoons. We do things by the book here.
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