Reports on BDO questions in Boston

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Cartoon Peril, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I have a vivid memory of one in a Tom and Jerry cartoon in the early 1970s, but I could be mistaken.
     
  2. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Yup. Gotta be an ACME barrel-on-a-stick sledgehammer.
     
  3. OnTheAsile

    OnTheAsile Original Member

    Live Free or Die Motto Lawsuit and US Supreme Court Ruling
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_Free_or_Die
    • " In 1971, the New Hampshire state legislature mandated that the phrase appear on all non-commercial license plates, replacing "Scenic."
    • " George Maynard, a Jehovah's Witness, covered up "or die" from his plate."
    • "He was convicted of breaking a state law against altering license plates."
    • " The U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6–3 in his favor and likened Maynard's refusal to accept the state motto with the Jehovah’s Witness children refusing to salute the American flag in public school in the 1943 decision West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette."
    • "We begin with the proposition that the right of freedom of thought protected by the First Amendment against state action includes both the right to speak freely and the right to refrain from speaking at all,” Chief Justice Warren Burger wrote for the majority in Maynard."
    The part I find most interesting is: "We begin with the proposition that the right of freedom of thought protected by the First Amendment against state action includes both the right to speak freely and the right to refrain from speaking at all,” Chief Justice Warren Burger wrote for the majority in Maynard."


    So does "state action" infer "federal action"? Hopefully one of these days we will find out.............

    I tried to keep the quotes as short as possible and still include the the basics of the case.

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  4. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    I would read it as, yes, it does include federal action.

    The Federal Government derives its powers from the People through the State Government. Ergo, any Constitutional restrictions at the State level would also apply at the Federal level.

    Good luck explaining that to an overzealous BDO, though.
     
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  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    You're reading too much into it. "State" in that context simply means government, any government.

    The Bill of Rights in its original context limited the federal government -- and only the federal government. They were extended to apply to state (and thereby to local) governments by the reconstruction amendments after the Civil War.

    The federal government does not derive its powers from the states. It exercises those powers that are enumerated in the Constitution and a few others that it has usurped. The Constitution specifically provides for federal supremacy in those areas, while at the same time reminding people via the 10th amendment that all powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved to the states and people.
     
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  6. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    One must be careful to not read too much into this. In the New Hampshire case the issue was whether a state could force people to carry about a political slogan on their license plate. The court did go ahead and consider the state's interest in doing this, but basically found it to be not important. I don't see that sort of result coming out of a case involving airport interrogation. I would in fact expect the opposite result.
     
  7. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    That's what I was trying to say. I didn't do a very good job of explaining it. :oops:
     
  8. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Are you sure it isn't the oversized wooden mallet for the "ring the bell" events at the Fair?

    :eek:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkztG4vxPjE Does that qualify the wooden mallet?
     
  9. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    :eek:
    just make sure your insurance is up to date, and yes Ive run this call before its a case of fubar; not what is broken or injured but what isnt.

    LOL that chart would be easy AOS TF pt DRT ART. (Arrived on Scene to find patient dead right there assuming room temperature)
     
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  10. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    TSTL?
     
  11. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    LOL 10-4
     
  12. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Gak! You guys stop popping my bubbles!

    I knew AOS, and DRT, thanks for the new additions to my alphabet soup!
     
  13. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Your welcome, glad to be of service, but be aware these are mild compared to some. When it comes to writing charts or coded notes in as few letters/words as possible I have it down to a art, that or sliding a comment in under the radar

    NTFB = Not To Bright
    TSTL = To stupid to Live
    DOS = Dead on Scene
    ID10T = self explainitory malfunction code
    CIRI = Cranial inter-rectal infarction (head stuffed up (expletive deleted))


    Then theres the classic SNAFU, FUBAR
     
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  14. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Sweet, even more fodder for the uneducated friends.

    Don't forget TARFU (as it comes right between SNAFU and FUBAR).
     

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