Russell Mackey, SFO Moron in charge

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by KrazyKat, Feb 1, 2012.

  1. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Forced Voluntary surrender of tinned food stuffs (no matter that such items are sold in airport concourses), at SFO. When suited supervisor Russell Mackey was told he could speak to a Senator's Aide about the forced confiscation he said, "No, I don't care. I'm not talking to the President."

    Russell Mackey, more powerful than the President of the United States. Keeping America safe, one can of crab bisque at a time.
     
  2. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Got link?
     
  3. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    I heard the conversation by phone, live, several minutes ago.
     
  4. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

  5. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Same 'hole. Interesting.
    It took weeks and weeks to get duty information out of TSA on my case. Per your link, their records are bogus anyway.
     
  6. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Do Terminal Managers often involve themselves personally in such demands for theft surrender?
    Crab bisque. Nice choice for stocking your employee break room, pal. :td:
     
  7. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    "A blog dedicated to the TSOs, LTSOs, and BDOs at San Francisco International Airport that work for Covenant Aviation Security, LLC (CAS)."

    Sure sounds like private security to me.

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  8. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    That's right. SFO uses Private thugs per TSA SSI.

    I'm still surprised the Terminal Manager finds time to hassle individual customers like that. Nice touch.
    Russell Mackey gets his orders from a higher authority than the President, like the TSA boss. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Just reinforces what I keep saying -- it doesn't matter if the goons are public or private. They're still goons. So private security isn't necessarily going to be any better.

    Though it's moot anyway. Now that the federal smurfs are unionized, we'll never get rid of them. And I say this as a union member (who obviously lost one of her union jobs last fall, so there was no problem getting rid of me for political reasons. Maybe I should've stripped and groped a few people; that's clearly more acceptable).
     
  10. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Re-booting with an entirely different (private) system is not the same as this crap at SFO, contractors to TSA.
    It's worth suggesting alternative careers paths which don't allow thieving and molesting on the job. (And yes, alternatives to being used as fertilizer, etc.)
    In the last year we've both had interesting personal insights into the role of unions, in protecting the non-work speech of their members (not).
     
  11. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    I guess travellers are to take solace in knowing their abusers abuse not only the public, but their charges at work. Security First @ SFO blog is rife with complaints from staff.
    One employee goes on to actually suggest a merit-based system for promotion. (Be serious. At SFO?)
     
  12. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    He who gropes the most advances the mostest. :D
     
  13. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    I now want the Pope to do a visit through there, so that dude can go up against The Pope.
     
  14. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    The part I don't understand is why anyone would fight so hard to remain employed in a position where they're supposed to report to people they so obviously despise. Why not move on to another job - one that actually makes sense?

    It's like accepting a job as a honey-wagon driver and constantly complaining about the smell instead of changing jobs.

    I have no sympathy for them.
     
  15. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Well, except that the economy sucks, and is only going to get worse. I do have some sympathy for people who can't find another job. Unemployment is real. You can't just go out and pluck a job off a tree.
     
  16. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I do when those people actually have marketable skills on their resume and not just "WILL GROPE FOR FOOD." But when someone makes a concerted effort to not only fail to learn any useful skills, but actively defend their useless posturing as "necessary to the safety of the traveling public," I don't.

    There's not a current TSA employee that I have one lick of sympathy for.
     
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  17. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I'm sorry, but there are plenty of people working for the TSA who have higher skills. The sad fact is that they're taking these jobs because there's nothing else out there. And, yes, that is a dangerous situation. Dangerous for all of us, for passengers, for non-passengers, for the country in general.

    I know we get a lot of mileage at TUG out of making wisecracks and implying that every clerk is a loser, etc. And yes, lots of them are losers. But not all of them are. The attrition rate tells us that. The problem is that not everyone who hates his/her job at the TSA can afford to leave. We need to get those people on our side, not alienate them. There are people working there who don't want to grope people, who don't want to rob people, who think the procedures are as asinine as we do. They are our natural allies.
     
  18. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    As long as they are willing to continue putting on the blue shirt and tin badge and actually carry out those procedures, they are not my ally, nor yours. "Just following orders" is not a defense, and you know it.
     
  19. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I'm not saying it's a defense. I know it's not a defense. I'm saying there are, for example, clerks who aren't groping passengers, who, when they're ordered to do a "pat-down," do only the most cursory frisking. Or who don't steal.

    I'm just pointing out the reality of this crappy economy and the fact of this permanent state of war our overlords have put us in. Those factors mean that it's not easy to just "get another job." As I said, it makes the country more dangerous. It puts us all more at risk.

    But as long as this state of affairs exists, we need to find a way to bring some of these people over to our side. I don't know how to do it. We've talked about this at TUG before. But just categorically declaring that all 60,000 TSA employees are "thieves, criminals, perverts" ain't gonna help. As I said, it might be good for blowing off steam in these forums, but it's not going to accomplish anything in real life.
     
  20. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    You left out "idiots with no better job prospects."

    Prior to November, 2010 I would have agreed that it was important to get them on our side.

    At this stage of the game, there aren't any TSA employees I feel the need to "convert." There's no point.
     

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