Saudi Man Arrested at New York Airport With Bag Full of Weapons

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    TSA averts yet another non-threat to aviation for weapons that are legal in 4/5 of the states ....

    Fox News: Saudi Man Arrested at New York Airport With Bag Full of Weapons

    NY Post: ‘Stunning’ JFK bust

    Ann Marie McLewd, Phillip Desnyo -- two more clerks who should be greeting customers at Walmart.
  2. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Let's see, stun gun inside of checked baggage? Not a firearm so IMHO not that big of a deal. Professional photo flashes are capable of delivering a lethal shock if you get across the photoflash tube. More of a threat than a stun gun. Yell at the guy and let him be.
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  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    What is it about those states like NY that hate the idea that citizens should be allowed to defend themselves?

    (Not that the typical "stun gun" is going to do much more than annoy a criminal unless you can make contact with a good muscle group - they don't pack the same wallop as an actual Taser. The "stun batons" mentioned might be useful, though.)
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  4. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    arrested on "misdemeanor weapons charges" - some bust. but then again, TSA needs to find something to crow about.
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    It does get a bit deflated when details come out.
  6. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    When I worked at LAX for a short stint, we had a passenger with a shuriken in her bag, per SOP that is a weapon that can't go - per CA law, that is a FELONY! So, for finding a throwing star in - get this - an honor roll student returning from a year long honors study course in Japan (her parents home country), to jail in CA because of a throwing star. TSA didn't push this issue, our job was simply to prevent the star from getting on the plane (WEI), LAXWPD chose to take this to the next level. I was pretty heartbroken for her, but the same laws from NY, are magnified even more in certain sections of CA.

    A stun gun is not that big of a find, they actually come through more often than you might think, even more so with pepper spray or mace. Both of which are primarily, self defense items.
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  7. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    You did notice that the stun guns the TSA is so proud of keeping off of the aircraft were in CHECKED baggage, right? Therefore presenting no threat to the flight anyway?
  8. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Can folks please add comments to some of the stories out there, e.g.
    This is getting a lot of play and they are leaving out the detail of the checked bag from the story.
  9. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Of course they are.

    It's nowhere near as nice a story for the TSA to make their clowns look useful if everyone understands that these stun guns were in a checked bag.
  10. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    I believe that 'Saudi' and 'gun' in one topic is what draws the attention from certain people, to make this appear more frightening than it really is. Add to that the fact that his name is 'Mohamed', and, well.... :rolleyes:

    If Bob from Belgiun had a taser in his checked bag I don't think that it would have drawn much media attention.
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  11. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    I have to admit that I'm somewhat perplexed by this news story. I have to agree: the stun gun is not a BFD. If the other weapons were firearms, they're only a BFD if they were not declared properly and if discovered incidental to a search for prohibited items. Otherwise, this is really a non-event.
  12. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Hey Cupcake where does it say a stun gun has to be declared? (expletive deleted) its a 4th degree misdomeanr which means its on the same level as a littering ticket.BFD. TSA yet again trumping up a non event as it was in a CHECKED BAG. #IDIOTS #TSADELENDAEST

    Most civilian stun guns cant do crap unless you hit the right muscle or nerve group(like the nuts or certain areas of the neck) and even then its not that bad. as mentioned i could modify my standalone flash to deliver enough juice to take a horse down as that little capacitor can store up a heck of alot of energy and discharge it in a thousendth of a second. Now if you want to talk about a device from tazer international then your talking a whole different ball game as it doesnt matter where your hit with a dry or barbed taze your going down and thats a 8 second ride most people dont want to take a second time. Its also why sales of those class of tazers is highly resticted.
  13. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    I think you've been inhaling too many sterilizers, son. Go back and re-read my post, slowly. Find a friend to read it to you; perhaps you'll grasp the gist of my comment. I never said the stun gun has to be declared. In fact, I said it was not a big f**king deal. However, the article never specified what the "other weapons" were. We're led to believe they were all stun guns or similar items, but the article is really poorly written. All I said, SFB, is that IF they were firearms, then the only real BIG deal is that they weren't properly packaged and not declared. Otherwise, it's no BFD.

    Here's the other point, ace: TSA can't arrest people for items found inside of a bag. That's purely cop (expletive deleted). So if you're going to hyperventilate into a state of pisstivity over this, then direct your anger at the NY Airport LEOs. They're the ones who made the arrest.

    I hope you follow doctors' directions more closely than you read comments off the internet. Your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired.
  14. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Sterilizers... oh thats funny (expletive deleted) to bad your grasping for straws out of your posterior, also shows a real lack of intelligence in areas you dont have a ever lovin clue. You play it off like its no big deal but your breathern in NY decided to make it a big deal. I really hope this person is related to the royal family and this in turns is more egg on TSAs disgusting face.

    Oh trust me NY state is jacked up as ive seen it in action many a time(PANY and its "gun law" inappropriate definitions on people transiting those airports, and how they have been bitch smacked by the courts repeatedly) enough as without cop wannabe panty wastes sticking noses where it dont belong yet again.

    As for the "cant arrest people" but TSA does threaten and intimidiate on a regular basis, its only when you all get called on the carpet and the situation gets turned around do you back down.

    You should really think and look at yourself before you go making comments about people intelligence...
  15. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Firearms must be unloaded & ammo stored correctly. I would think an undeclared firearm would raise a red flag regardless because it's safety hasn't been verified.

    With regard to the stun guns, TSA needs to get off their contraband kick and stick to real threats to aviation.
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  16. Doober

    Doober Original Member

  17. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Idiot cop/author doesn't like criticism: I posted a comment via FB criticizing the author and it has been removed.
  18. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Id say post it again and this time, add a comment about it getting removed and the author having something against peoples first amendment rights, and being called on the carpet.
  19. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    ...except that "First Amendment" rights are completely inapplicable on a privately-owned forum.
  20. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I didn't know it was illegal to place a stun gun inside your checked bag. Don't a lot of people own stun guns? Isn't it perfectly legal to own stun guns? If you don't put it in a checked bag, where do you put it?

    Why does anyone care if there is a stun gun in the checked baggage compartment?
    Why does the TSA care?
    Why was this front page news?

    How stupid is the U.S. anyway? Shouldn't there be a limit on this "federally mandated stupidity?" I find it embarrassing to be represented/served by a federal government that is so monumentally stupid.

    Shouldn't our federal government be at least as bright as a very low functioning adult citizen?

    There's a reason why I haven't posted anything wrt this monumentally stoopid non-event before now. This kind of stoopid annoys me. I don't mind it from preschoolers or gaggles of 11-13 year old girls, because it's known that they will outgrow the stoopid. The federal stoopid bugs me though. Is there any hope?

    Can a federal government outgrow stupid, or is it the equivalent of an Alzheimer's patient, doomed to die of a progressive disability? If the latter is the case, then annoyance becomes fear. There's no hope. So I haven't been eager to contemplate this case. It's annoying, then it's depressing. Hopeless.
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