Scrutinizing the Scrutinizers: Airport Screeners Dislike Pass-Fail Tests

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    That's just the icing on the (expletive deleted) cake. The bigger question is why we have such a large force of wholly unqualified thieves, thugs and dolts pretending to be performing "security" operations in the first place. That they're pretending to be PreCrime Enforcers on top of that is just stupid.
  2. I would like to know how often Rugape false alarms on people who are nervous, or stressed about missing their flight, or upset because they're off to their grandmother's funeral.

    (I'm sure the answer is SSI, and/or that he has a perfect record because he's the most perfect aparachik ever. I'd like to know the truth about it, though, if such a thing could ever be learned.)
  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    The truth, the incidence of true terrorists is so small that even if a TSA BDO was accurate 100% of the time they would never identify a terrorist.

    The math (available in the link at post #40) shows why the TSA BDO program is a waste of money, manpower, and effort. It really makes no one safer but it does make us all less safe by taking people away from the one thing that does make us safer, screening bags for weapons.
  4. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Not from the TSA or any of its employees, that's for sure.
  5. Personally, I feel much less safe when I have to let somebody try to play gotcha with me. I was recently pulled over for a taillight out by airport police when I was dropping my mom off at the airport. He was perfectly friendly about it, but he asked for my mom's ID as well (she was in the passenger seat and gave it up happily... "I'm an upstanding citizen and have nothing to hide!" she proclaimed to me later when I told her she did not legally have to comply, :rolleyes: ). His partner shined a flashlight around under my car before the main cop even came up to my window. I didn't realize that had happened until my mom told me afterward. I have a clean record and had nothing nefarious in my car, unless you count an improperly secured kid, who is so tall he was busting out of his booster seat but is still a couple pounds shy of the nanny-state minimum for just using a seat belt. Luckily the cop didn't think to nab me for this sort of scofflaw behavior. But did I come out of that encounter feeling like the airport cops were there to keep me safe? No. I came out feeling like the airport isn't a safe place for me to come and go without incident.

    BDO questioning would make me feel the same way -- like somebody in power is trying to bust me for not being flawless, compliant, and submissive. Being interrogated by someone who practices junk science is a thought that fills me not with fuzzy feelings of safety and security, but with thoughts of dread and disgust. The purpose of a system is what it does, Rugape, and it does this.
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    People must be taught to refuse these requests. The only way we will avoid a police state is by refusing to let it develop incrementally.
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  7. Agreed. My mom claims to be a libertarian, but she lives in a stop-and-identify state. I think she's been conditioned to this level of intrusion already. I kind of wish I politely asked the cop if she was required to show it and then let her make the choice. But it happened too fast for me to process the thought. I hope I at least planted the seed in her mind.
  8. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

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  9. Dude. Is Rugape some kind of computer algorithm?
  10. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Unlikely. Computers don't deal well with cognitive dissonance, and TSA employees are incapable of realizing it.
  11. RB

    RB Founding Member

    About as much as being able to read micro-expressions of just terrorists.

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