Six hospitalised after TSA agent [Christ-Yves Dabel] ‘playing around’ pepper sprays colleagues @ JFK

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  1. 2012-2014 comes from the LinkedIn profile. I looked again at the profile on

    Master of Science in Protection Management
    John Jay College of Criminal Justice-
    New York, NY
    May 2010

    Bachelor of Science in Security Management
    John Jay College of Criminal Justice-
    New York, NY

    My cut and paste had erased a space -- May 2010 was indeed attached to the Masters. Oh well. He doesn't know what he's doing but he hopes somebody will be impressed.
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  2. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Which leads one to wonder how any school could possibly admit someone into a MASTERS program for "protection management" who is so abysmally stupid they can't tell the difference between a laser pointer and a can of OC spray.
  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I don't do LinkedIn so haven't seen how the info is posted there. Regardless I'm not sure I would be saying "expected" if the MS is listed as expected over a period of several years.
  4. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    ah ah ah chooo :trash: oooo. Right I have more respect for people who work for the IRS janitor then DHS/TSA clerk wanna-be. As a paramedic im the consumate professional and my documentation is flawless... right down to my favorite colors being Orange & Grey.

    okay my co-workers now think im nucking futz as I fell out of my chair laughing at that.
  5. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Is this just a description of your actual favourite colours, or do orange & grey stand for something in EMT parlance that I'm not aware of?

    I feel like I should be getting something that I'm not.
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Boing Boing: TSA screener finds pepper spray on the floor, gasses five other screeners because he thought it was a laser-pointer

    A TSA screener at JFK pepper-sprayed five of his colleagues at Terminal 2 on Tuesday, according to the New York Post. The screener, Chris Yves Dabel, found a pepper-spray cannister on the floor and believed it was a laser-pointer, so (for some reason), he aimed it at five other screeners and pressed the trigger. The six were sent to Jamaica Hospital.

    The image accompanying the piece (will show if they allow hot-linking) is a cutout of the fired douchbag who sprayed the crowd of protesters at UC Irvine:

  7. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    That's a three-striper, right?
  8. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    For me it stopped being funny back in 2004.
  9. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    After rectal insertion, of course.
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  10. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Admittance standards for such programs are along the lines of "can you fog a mirror?".
  11. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    perhaps, but it would absorb too much energy, given the likely mass involved.
  12. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Let me preface by saying that everyone makes mistakes... That being said, I do not know of co-workers that would confuse the two mentioned items. Most of our BDOs here are former military and would know the two of them fairly quickly, and take appropriate steps to sequester the item that needed to be removed, and place the other item back in the bag and let it go without any problem. I have to say that my BDO crew here is pretty good overall, so I would say that this is not the best example of BDOs for TSA.
  13. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I think I would agree with you that most people, trained or not, would know what a consumer type pepper spray device looks like which leads me to believe that this Stellar TSA Enployee did also and was just playing around with the thing. After it discharged I also suspect the lies started to minimize personal accountability, a scenario that fits well with all things TSA.
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  14. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    At what? Pretending to be useful?

    The entire concept of "behavioral detection" as "performed" by the TSA has been debunked by reputable scientists - see the Nature Magazine article.
  15. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I can assure you that anyone that has had the experience of being gassed, or sprayed with pepper spray would treat these types of items with the utmost of care. Even if you don't discharge them, they can leak and have some on the outside, one wrong slip or touch can make for a memorable day of flushing your face under a sink and a never ending search for visine in the airport (luckily, that was not me, it was a coworker that inadvertantly held one, then rubbed their eye during the process... nasty business that).
  16. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Your assurance is predicated on "anyone" not having a learning disability, thus disqualifying any TSA employee.
  17. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Around here pepper spray can be purchased just about anywhere. It is are clearly labeled. Only a true idiot would mistake one for any other device.

    I don't know if it is still done but we were exposed to tear gas in boot camp. Not pleasant, and having rubbed my eyes after handling peppers I have no desire to try pepper spray.
  18. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    ...thus qualifying them for TSA "employment."
  19. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Same boat on both counts, we went to the Disco Hut about once a year in the Army, and it sucked every single time. On a side note, some of these canisters do not have labels on them, and look nothing like an actual mace device. You can buy that stuff just about anywhere here as well, and some of them look like cell phones, pagers (old school, I know), even Ipods - essentially anything that can hold half an ounce or so of pressurized liquid, can be converted into a mace device. Same thing with some of the tasers, I have seen so many shock devices that are camouflaged as other normal everyday devices it is not even funny. All that being said, I am not going to play with a device that I am not familiar with, I am going to follow the protocols in the SOP and either let a non-prohib go, or report the prohib to the STSO.
  20. RB

    RB Founding Member

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