Smile! You, too, will be in a federal database

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Lisa Simeone, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    There are just so many of these -- stories of surveillance, of erosion of our rights -- that it's becoming impossible to keep up.

    Smile! You, too, will be in a federal database
    Next year will mark the beginning of the FBI’s newest sophisticated facial recognition technology. This is part of the government’s latest toy.
    . . . This will be used in tandem with the federal fingerprint system currently used. The problem, according to the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is:
    NGI will result in a massive expansion of government data collection for both criminal and noncriminal purposes. IAFIS is already the largest biometric database in the world—it includes 70 million subjects in the criminal master file and more than 31 million civil fingerprints. Even if there are duplicate entries or some overlap between civil and criminal records, the combined number of records covers close to 1/3 the population of the United States. When NGI allows photographs and other biometric identifiers to be linked to each of those records, all easily searchable through sophisticated search tools, it will have an unprecedented impact on Americans’ privacy interests.
    Now, the hairy part:
    The new NGI database will also allow law enforcement to submit public and private security camera photos that may or may not be linked to a specific person’s record. This means that anyone could end up in the database—even if they’re not involved in a crime— by just happening to be in the wrong place at the wrong time or by, for example, engaging in political protest activities in areas like Lower Manhattan that are rife with security cameras.
    The EFF article has an graphic example of how this works.
     
  2. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    They are reaching out for total control at nearly the same moment financial and economic events unfold to put it out of their reach.
     
  3. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Makes me believe there really is a God, and that He is watching out for us (Thank you, Big Guy in the Sky!) :D
     
  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Unfortunately, I believe there will always be money for repressive methods/machines/weapons/tactics.
     
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  5. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    If you are of a certain age, you remember the era of the gulags, and the repression in the eastern bloc, where we were horrified at the spectre of informants and bugs planted in parks to catch random conversations. We in the US/UK are doing far more invasive things than those people ever did, but with a twist--getting people to *desire* their own oppression! It is an interesting approach to achieving the same results. In the end, it will turn out as successful. Human nature is very predictable. In such environments, people will stop doing what society needs them to do to survive and thrive. They simply stop working hard and wait for the dole. Expect to see a lot fewer goods on the shelves, food shortages, shoddy manufacturing, and factories turning out size nine left foot shoes because that helps meet quotas....
     
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  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    FBI pushes S-COMM to spur public acceptance of massive new biometrics database
    Monday, December 12, 2011, at 10:57 am by Farid Zakaria
     
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I foresee a ton of "resisting" arrests for refusing unconstitutional efforts to gather biometric data in the field.
     
  8. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    dark sunglasses and rubber facemasks for everyone?
     
  9. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Don't forget gloves so that they can't lift your fingerprints.
     
  10. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Preferably not blue.
     
  11. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Except now the Republocrats cut-off unemployment to people who WANT to work, were working, and can work. There is no manufacturing to speak of, most of it offshore. The economy is starved of jobs. And perhaps the powers that be (in my case and others) won't let a dissenter have one. "Well, professional, you're not with the program, but maybe we'll let you work a P/T shift at Dairy Queen. We'll take your wasted labor in our service economy (and we'll still take your house)."

    It's the giant straw stuck in the middle class, sucking out what's left. By whom? For whom?

    As for the biometrics, MS webcams at their service. Big Bro'/'Sis is staring right at you from your own laptop.
     
  12. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    “It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear.”
    -General Douglas MacArthur (May 15, 1951)


    Oh, that crazy radical MacArthur!
     
  13. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Anyone who can't properly find a use for a small piece of electrical tape have only themselves to blame.
     
  14. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Or, as General Smedly Butler put it, War Is A Racket.
     
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  15. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Blame? No, wrong again. But I'll take that as confirmation of the misuse of the webcam.
     
  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Details?
     
  17. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Because of MS's appalling over-and-above the call-of-(polluter/Putin)-duty in Russia, I'm sure our own crushers of dissent took notice. Apparently the bad press --a series on NYT page one--made them back down from their truly shameful activities in Russia. But their cred in helping government repression was established. (expletive deleted), maybe the series was a PR piece for securing US collaboration contracts.

    They own Skype. They own your operating system. They know your computer ID. Your connection to the Internet. It's probably hacker pre-school to not only snap, but send, to the those who operate via the un-American Patriot Act.
    And our 'good friend' Frank says it's our fault to not cover the webcam with black tape. Jesus Christ forgave. I'm afraid I'm w/ Barbell: FOAD, Patriot Act-toadies.
     
  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Useless fearmongering. Any computer that runs Windows can run on Linux, an open-source OS not owned by Microsoft. Droids, IPhones & Macs have competing operating systems; the latter two are proprietary to Apple systems but the Android system is intended for any mobile platform.

    My internet connection is 3G via T-Mobile and occasionally Wi-Fi in Hilton properties, none of which are owned by Microsoft. 3rd-party firewalls (e.g. MacAfee & Norton) block & manage all communications for most people.

    Just as IBM has all but disappeared from the landscape, Microsoft, too, will diminish over time.
     
  19. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    The case of the kid being spied on by his high school through his home computer; just add metrics.
     
  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Okay, now I want details. This is too tantalizing.
     

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