So what did I see?

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by JoeBas, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    As most of you know, I no longer make it a habit to frequent my local aviation-related establishments, as I have no use for them as long as the current scope & grope regime is in place.

    However, despite my protestations to the contrary that she take the train, my sister flew down to Houston to visit my parents (who snowbird) and I for a post-Christmas visit. As I work very close to Hobby, and her flight got in at 5PM, I volunteered to go and pick her up. Getting there rather early and a mob scene at the arrivals pick-up area, I proceeded to park and stroll inside to the checkpoint exit, to observe the Dog and Pony show for entertainment purposes.

    Hobby's checkpoints employ a mix of WTMD and MMW machines. Over the 30 minutes I was watching, the MMW took an average of 15 seconds to clear, with a FAR of about 10%. Interesting, for each FAR, they sent the person BACK through the MMW, and then on their way - I saw only 5 cursory localized pat-downs after a second scan. The WTMD, of course, took on average 7-8 seconds to clear, and since they have only the one checkpoint, they used the MMW in "Waves", that is, they'd use the MMW, the line would back into the terminal, they'd go back to WTMD until the line got down to 2 wrap-arounds, turn the MMW back on, the line would back into the terminal, ad infinitum.

    Anyway, from my exit late vantage point, I had not one, but TWO, travelers pulling roll-aboards go up the exit lane, wake up the exit lane drone to show him some ID, have the ID checked by a supervisor, sign a paper, and roll right through, no screening whatsoever. Neither individual was in any kind of uniform, so it wasn't crew access. Any ideas?
     
  2. RB

    RB Founding Member

    FAM?
     
  3. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    Possible, though one was a little middle-aged oriental lady... I suppose one should not stereotype, and that this would be ideal cover for a properly trained FAM, but doesn't exactly fit the profile...
     
  4. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    I'll bet they were LEOs carrying a firearm since they had paperwork signed off. I think FAMs just show their credentials without paperwork.
     
  5. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Federal LEO types can work up to age 57.
     
  6. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    From the unredacted TSA Screening SOP Manual :D:

    4.3.1. ARMED OR UNARMED LEOs ENTERING THE STERILE AREA
    A. An armed LEO or an unarmed LEO accompanied by a working canine, in or out of uniform, who
    desire passage beyond the screening checkpoint without screening of his or her person and accessible
    property must be discreetly referred to an airport assigned LEO (if available), an STSO, or a designated
    TSA representative for screening in accordance with the following procedures:


    1) An on-duty airport-assigned LEO, displaying a local distinctive airport ID may be cleared into the
    sterile area by a TSO without undergoing screening.


    2) An armed LEO may be cleared into the sterile area after inspection of his or her badge, credential, and
    U.S. Government-issued photo ID, and if flying, his or her boarding pass and Notice of LEO Flying
    Armed Document. For the purpose of this SOP, an LEO is considered armed when he or she is
    carrying a firearm or other item found on the TSA Prohibited Items List.


    3) An unarmed LEO, accompanied by a working canine, may be cleared into the sterile area after
    inspection of his or her badge, credential, and Government-issued photo ID, and if flying, his or
    her boarding pass.


    B. During inspection of the LEO documents, an airport-assigned LEO, STSO, or a designated TSA
    representative must ensure:


    1) The name, flight, and date specified on an armed LEOs boarding pass and Notice of LEO Flying
    Armed document match.


    2) If the armed LEO is flying and does not present a Notice of LEO Flying Armed document, the LEO
    must be denied entry into the sterile area unless undergoing screening.


    3) If any of the documents do not appear to be valid, deny the individual access to the sterile area and
    contact an airport assigned LEO.


    4) If the boarding pass of an armed LEO or an unarmed LEO with a working canine is designated as
    a selectee, exempt that individual from selectee screening and apply distinctive markings to the
    individual’s boarding pass to indicate that the individual is exempt from selectee screening.
     
  7. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Did you observe any Opt-Out-of-the-Perv-O-Scope "pat" downs?
     
  8. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    Thanks, that was probably it... this IS Texas, where we have 15 "Layers" of armed LEOs, so I suppose two in such a short time isn't too unbelievable.

    Though I do hope the turrists never figure out that all they have to do is become a yokel, and they're good to go. :rolleyes:

    Sadly, not a single one. It was sheep, surrender, exit, assembly line style.
     
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  9. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Truely sad! In my home airport, too! Geeze, I can only hope all these sheeple were non-Texans going back to their own sad state!
     
  10. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    I just saw a thing about Rosa Parks again and it got me thinking in comparison. People back then had balls. people today are apathy and/or fools.
    She didn't just accept "things are the way they are"-which is what I hear from my coworkers. She didn't back down and stop making waves-like my family tells me. People like Rosa Parks had enough and changed what was wrong to right. And it happened in less than a year from when she was arrested.
    Every time I op-out I get the evil eye from everyone around me, when I refuse to fly with my family, I get no understand or support. I don't know what else to say.
     
  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Your Rosa Parks analogy is apt. I remember making it last year at a late, not-lamented group blog, where it promptly got no traction.

    But Rosa Parks wasn't the first to do what she did. On the contrary, there had been a coordinated campaign of black women refusing to give up their seats on buses for at least a year before Rosa Parks was hand-picked to be part of that campaign. This was a deliberate strategy -- a brilliant one -- to make a political point, move the country forward, and gain as much publicity as possible. (There were also black women who refused to give up their horse-carriage seats in the 19th century and who were dragged off and arrested.)

    The civil rights movement was a long, hard slog; and our fight, I'm afraid, is going to be likewise.
     
  12. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    I stand correct then, on the facts. But I still stand behind the observation that they still had balls back then.
     
  13. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    What kills me is all the sanctimonious spewing one hears about icons like Rosa Parks -- all the obeisance, the claims of admiration, of respect. When in fact most of the people making those claims are full of (expletive deleted). They don't have an ounce of the courage they claim to admire.

    That's not even the worst of it -- I understand that not everyone is courageous; I get that.

    But they don't even acknowledge that there are similarities between the civil rights movement and other movements, such as ours. They refuse to see it. That's what galls me. They pretend to admire people who stand up for principle, but in fact they don't want their pretty little heads or their comfortable little lives to be bothered by anyone standing up for principle. Total hypocrisy.
     
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  14. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    I'm also told as a response "That's history, historical events. Not realistic today."
    WTF?
     
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  15. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I beg to differ with you. Rosa Parks was a brave woman, but she had no balls.
     
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  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Well, it's after 9/11 after all. You do remember 9/11, don't you?

    :td: :td: :td: :td: :td:

    We have had several "Rosa Parks" (e.g. Phil Mocek & Aaron Tobey), and there will be more to come.
     
  17. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    "It's just the way things are" followed by the ever clever change-the-subject-and ignore-me.
    Mocek, Tobey, don't get the mass public support I want to see.
    I wasn't alive back then, but the impression I get is our society today is much more apathetic and submissive.
     
  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I was alive, but too young to really appreciate most of it has it happened. "Just the way things are" was also the rationale to perpetuate discrimination for hundred years on the heels of slavery. One shouldn't mess with the "natural order" of things.

    Eventually the "natural order" got messed with. And so will TSA.
     
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  19. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    No, society is no more apathetic today than it was then. There were plenty of people then who didn't give a (expletive deleted) either. They were forced to. They were forced to pay attention. Forced to experience a little discomfort in their lives. That will have to happen again, on a large scale, before we see any change this time.
     

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