so when would i...

Discussion in 'New Users' started by G_Wolf, Jun 19, 2011.

  1. G_Wolf

    G_Wolf Original Member here, versus on some other travel-related forums? I guess I'm trying to figure out what the difference is?
  2. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    The Moderators here will not censor you for saying what is on your mind unless it is obscene, slanderous, or a personal attack. I have had a post censored on FT because a Mod thought my comment was "gratuitous." Seriously!
  3. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    G_Wolf, welcome to Travel Underground!

    In addition to DeafBlonde's excellent points, here we discuss openly, and freely the abuse and stupidity of the TSA system.

    It may seem, at first, that this site is the rabid anti-TSA crowd. It may also appear to be a little lighter on content.

    Here we try to catalog the ongoing, senseless, and downright wrong actions undertaken against American values and the American way of life by the TSA.

    We have also only been at this a week, so help stop this madness by contributing and providing your own honest assessment of the process, good and bad.

    Hope to see you around!
  4. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    And even "obscene" is reaching when TUG moderation is concerned. Many forums will say that "This is a private enterprise so the first amendment doesn't apply."

    Well, while it's true that it doesn't necessarily apply to private locales, here we strive to make it apply. In general, if the government isn't allowed to censor it, we're going to think 2, 3, and 4 times before censoring it as well.
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    One example: I quit posting in that other forum > a month ago when Blogdad Bob, TSA's Chief Propagandist, was declared beyond reproach by some moderators with their own agenda simply because Blogdad Bob had been crafty enough to join that board. You're free to criticize Blogdad Bob all you want here, whether he joins TUG or not, just try to keep it in the context of what he has said or done.
  6. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    What many others have said, plus this: Other forums (FlyerTalk, MilePoint, etc.) focus more on the travel experience end-to-end. Hotels, airfare deals, tourist attractions, food, etc. The whole enchilada.

    We focus on one specific part of travel: Security when traveling and all it entails. How to protect yourself, how to protect your belongings and, in many cases, how to protect your rights.

    It's no secret that in the US at least, travelers (mostly air travelers but there are rumblings of that expanding out into other modes as well) have been subject to highly-questionable practices at security checkpoints. This is a place where that can be torn down, examined, nitpicked and fought against.

    Other concerns are theft by security/airline/train/cruise personnel, aggressive passengers causing problems while in transit, rashes of thefts/muggings/scams at various destinations, and concerns when crossing borders and going through Customs.

    Also, those of us who are unhappy with security-screening procedures and inclined toward political correspondence can come here for advice on writing to Congresspeople to demand action.

    TL;DR version: Go to other forums when you want advice on where to stay, where to eat, what to see, etc. Come here when you want advice on how to protect your civil liberties, your property, and your person when you're out seeing the world.
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    We focus on travel safety and security, not limited to air travel. Checkpoint abuse just happens to be get getting the most attention at the moment. "Blue-shirted thugs" are not our focus.

    In the week before the site went live, we hashed out a mission statement that now appears under the "Welcome!" on the forum index:

    This -- and only this -- defines our focus.

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