So Who's it Gonna Be Iowa?

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by Elizabeth Conley, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

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    The ball's in your court.
     
  2. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    unfortately, the government looks like it'll get its Mitts all over us again.
     
  3. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    :td:
     
  4. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Democratic media by blogosphere:
    From acid, amnesty, and abortion to gold, peace, and prosperity, instead?
     
  5. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Another excerpt from that column:
     
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  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    And another:
     
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  7. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Ron Paul is the only valid candidate. I will vote for him even if he dies before the election. All the others are milk-fed weasels.
     
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I'm reconsidering writing in Bennie's name. I think instead I'll write in Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein.
     
  9. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Regardless of your favorite or mine I think Mit will take Iowa.

    Of the candidates I think he is coming across as the most moderate of the crowd which would likely appeal to the greater number of potential voters.

    Guess we will all know after the primary.
     
  10. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Was just reading up a bit on Jill Stein and holy crap am I impressed.

    http://www.gp.org/committees/pcsc/2012/candidate-questionnaire/stein.shtml

    While she doesn't explicitly mention TSA by name, she's clearly against the DHS police state and the attempted crackdowns on Occupy $LOCATION protests.

    I have some serious attention-paying and investigating to do on her and Ron Paul. I was getting worried for a while that there wasn't any other candidate that I could vote for as an alternative to Paul if he either doesn't get the GOP or Lib nom, or if his policies prove incompatible with my overall political philosophy to the point where his hardline anti-TSA stance isn't enough after all (not that I think it would be easy for someone to be so horrible that being anti-TSA couldn't make up for it, but even still...). Mostly I didn't like the idea of having no alternative, no wiggle room, no Plan B.

    I'm thinking at this point that I want to do everything I can to get her name out there and raise awareness. My hopes are twofold (and admittedly lofty): First, Paul gets the GOP nom. Second, Stein is identified as a serious contender on a political-issues basis and so she and Paul have to seriously compete to be called the best champion of the rights of the people.
     
  11. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    you are probably correct. yes, mitt, the guy who doesn't think we're spending enough on the military. If he's nominated, he will defeat Obama, and probably his tenure won't be any different than Obama's....but we will have had the illusion of a vote.
     
  12. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    She'd sound really great if her economic plans weren't out in Lalaland. Things like Manhattan Project/WWII scale mobilization to transition to clean renewables and related green sectors of the economy (including local food and recycling manufacturing" & taxing the rich & large corporations are non-starters.

    You need to change the tax structure to encourage those large corporations to create business & jobs here.

    Our own company (Fortune 50 corporation) now avoids creating new jobs in the U.S. in favor of India & the Philippines. When you have a truly global corporationwhose suppliers, manufacturing facilities & customers are spread throughout the entire world, the U.S. just isn't that important. Tax them more & you will get even less out of them at home.

    "Clean renewables and related green sectors ..." Yada yada yada. Green will take off when there's a market for it. This needs to be worked cautiously industry by industry, and the rest of the world has to go along. WWII-scale mobilization? Does she have the foggiest idea what she's talking about? Proportional to today's population, that means the economic equivalent of 30,000,000 men & women in uniform with the civilian mobilization to support them.

    The Greens are probably the 3rd party of the future (they seem a lot brighter than fruitcakes like Ross Perot & George Wallace), but they still have a lot of growing up to do.
     
  13. lkkinetic

    lkkinetic Original Member

    Although the RNC (or perhaps because the RNC) has blackballed Gary Johnson, I also recommend him to your attention ... Lots of balls in the air on the Paul front, either one of them running on the Lib ticket, etc.
     
  14. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    As I've noted before, Johnson's love of private prisons is very scary.
     
  15. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Well sure, Michael Chertoff is listed as being on Romney's Justice Advisory Committee.
     
  16. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

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