Video Sobbing Woman Suffers Obama TSA Patdown

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Even Kip Hawley says TSA is screwed up and no one listens, it's a matter of momentum. When it turns, as momentum always does, TSA will find themselves being assailed even if they correct the problems.
     
  2. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    I call bull:poop: on that one. If they treated people with "dignity" they would NOT make us choose between posing spread eagle naked for some undereducated, federally employed clerk of unknown sexual proclivity hiding in a secret room, or being sexually molested with one of their "full-body pat-downs' followed by swabbing for itsy-bitsy traces of substances that might possibly be an ingredient in some explosive compound.
     
  3. YCTTSFM

    YCTTSFM Original Member

    HuffPo claims this woman "could have gone through the scanners to avoid a "pat-down." I did not comment but contacted them directly, requesting they correct this and other errors in their unattributed article. Anyone else care to pile on?

    Wonder if this woman even knows this was recorded, has gone viral, or how many of us understand, support, and feel both devastated and outraged on her behalf?
     
  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    They make up their own rules on the spot. As you know from Rand Paul's experience, they're SUPPOSED TO search only the area that "alarmed," but they want to grope you all over anyway. It's power. They have the power. They can do what they want.
     
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  5. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I commented there and told them that. I left a comment calling (expletive deleted) on the claim that going through the scanner necessarily obviates a grope. Leave a comment there. There are others saying the same thing.
     
  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    And one false flag operation is all it will take to put the sheeple back in line.
     
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  7. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    My best friend thought the same thing - go through the scanner, avoid the pat down - until it happened to her recently.
     
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    They don't believe us. They don't believe facts. They don't believe any of this until it happens to them. What better definition of "willful ignorance" could there be?
     
  9. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    Then she should have been told that when she asked the agent WHY she had to have a pat down after going through the scanner. The agent wouldn't answer her question, just told her to stand there. We are allowed to ask a simple question and get an answer aren't we?
     
  10. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I think SSI is just something this agency has made up to avoid answering passenger's questions and using it as an excuse when complaints are filed. Nobody knows what all this SSI crap is including the TSA agents themselves. When anyone wants to know why something is done the answer is always "we can't tell you it's SSI". Seems to me that if SSI truly existed some employee of the TSA would have taken bribe money already to spill the beans - they take money and other things with no problem.
     
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  11. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    SSI has been around long before TSA wa created.
     
  12. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Just some random, desultory reflections:
    1. It is entirely possible for these machines to be programmed to alarm (4 or x or more anomalies) at random or at every n passengers.
    2. With 60% or better false positives (in the Amsterdam video, nearly everyone going thru ATR needed to get torso and butt gropes), there's a good chance you could get 4. Then you get groped for no reason even after going through ATR.
    3. People are getting more p*ssed with this clusterf*k as time goes on.
     
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  13. She didn't answer because she didn't have to. There's no accountability, no oversight, no consequences for rudeness, abuse, stomping on people's rights, and overstepping boundaries. She can do whatever the (expletive deleted) she wants with impunity.
     
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  14. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    The bottom line is the TSA uses SSI as an excuse to cover their butts whenever they do something they're not supposed to do. "We can't tell you why we did that because it's SSI." That song and dance is getting pretty darn old and the public is beginning to wise up.
     
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  15. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    No she can't. I've seen too many people fired and/or suspended over the stupidest (expletive deleted) to agree with that.
     
  16. YCTTSFM

    YCTTSFM Original Member

    I've seen too many screeners NOT fired and/or suspended over the stupidest (expletive deleted) that I believe it's absolutely true.
     
  17. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    So, why has anyone been fired?
     
  18. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    They sure as (expletive deleted) don't get fired for being rude and barking at passengers and manhandling their personal possessions or probing sensitive areas after being told there is a medical concern after surgery or a medical appliance being worn. If a passenger complains they might get an apology but usually not. They get fired when they are caught red handed stealing cash and electronic devices from passengers or caught in a sting when they are smuggling drugs from airport to airport or child porn is found on their computers or they are arrested for rape. There are 200 thefts by the TSA a DAY at JFK - seen any report about 200 TSA employees being fired a day?
     
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  19. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    200 thefts a day total, not all by TSA. Airline & contract employees are also involved, TSA is just a major part of the problem.

    At the NYC airports, it goes back to their original hiring practices: As of 2004, 20% of 2000 TSA screeners at NYC airports had criminal records. With that kind of work force, the rest is inevitable. Theft is just part of their culture.
     
  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

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