Student faces 10 years in U.S. jail for setting up 'illegal' website

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Lisa Simeone, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Abandoned by British justice: Student faces 10 years in U.S. jail for setting up 'illegal' website (in a chilling echo of Gary McKinnon)

     
  2. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    Seems like the civilised (NOT) world has lost the plot.
     
  3. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    can someone tell me why Britain would extradite him for a non crime? If China were to request extradition against someone who wrote a negative article about China, would Britain honor THAT? Same principle....

    The wheels are starting to come off our collective wagons. "Whoever the gods intend to ruin, they first make insane" as the old greek sentiment goes...
     
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  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The analogy with the guy who hacked into a Pentagon computer is a not a good one. There definitely is a U.S. connection to his case.

    According to comments at the Daily Mail, the student's web site was hosted in Australia. His only direct connection to the U.S. was his .net domain registration. That's almost as nebulous as having your data packets accidentally traverse the U.S. in ground lines.

    This is being driven by ICE, which is now part of DHS. DHS needs to be dismantled. ICE needs to focus on stamping passports as the borders.
     
  5. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Britain signed a very bad treaty. I have no idea why they would sign such a thing. It's insane.
     
  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I'm guessing the U.S. is putting pressure on Britain. The U.S. wants to make an example of every hacker because hacking is one of the few effective tactics We the People have left. I mean, come on -- if DHS could get a hold of every person in Anonymous, they'd love nothing better than to lock them all up. Forever.
     
  7. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Yeah, but this guy isn't a hacker. He put up a website with links to infringing material. What he did isn't even a crime in the UK.
     
  8. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The student is not a hacker. He's a legitimate webmaster/business man who ran afoul of overreaching zealots in DHS.

    Anonymous is in an entirely different situation -- they break into computers systems, steal things and damage things. Part of civil disobedience -- anonymous is really stretching the concept of "civil disobedience" here -- is that when you are caught, you will pay the legal penalty. Anonymous is going to be caught. Some of them have already been caught.
     
  9. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Ah, sorry, my facility with computer/internet lingo is obviously lacking.
     
  10. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Yup. That pretty much sums it up.
     
  11. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Is it just me, or does it seem like Homeland Security cares WAY too much about copyright violations?
     
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  12. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    This is ICE specifically, which seems to have usurped the lead nationally in both copyright & child porn investigations.
     
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    More international outreach, having New Zealand residents arrested because some of their servers were in Virginia ...
    It appears that none of the 4 arrested & indicted were either U.S. citizens or residents.
     
  14. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    Objection: redundant.
     
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  15. Leave no trace

    Leave no trace Original Member

    Clearly SOPA/PIPA are not required, they have all the tools they need already.
    Are we surprised that the reasons for SOPA/PIPA are lies?
     
  16. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Follow the money.
     
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  17. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/20/kim-dotcom-megaupload-founder_n_1218693.html

    http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2140296/mpaa-comments-hacking-attacks

     
  18. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    This blog post, while not directly addressing this case, raises some good points about the goals of the US Government re the internet.
     

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