Teen Blames TSA For Broken Insulin Pump

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, May 8, 2012.

  1. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Whether the pump was "actually broken" or not is completely irrelevant. Passing it through a TSA scanner in contravention of directives by the manufacturer caused it to be decertified and replaced.

    If you have an extended warranty on your car that covers engine and drivetrain issues as long as the maintenance schedule is kept up, do you change the oil at 3500 miles as per the manufacturers directives, or do you save the $30ish in the short term and only change the oil every 7500 miles?

    Your experience would tell you that no issues will result from waiting to change the oil, but doing so voids the warranty... and in the event that your experience proves incorrect, you now have an expensive lesson.

    The difference here is that trusting your invalid "experience" puts a lot more at risk than a seized engine.
     
  2. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    I was speaking in general. I wasn't complaining that people here aren't listing sources.

    I'm pretty sure I never said the scanners have been independently tested. I think that even if the scanners haven't been tested by anyone for anything, the insulin pump this person wore through the scanner probably wasn't damaged by the scanner.
     
  3. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    I would.
     
  4. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I am Jack's Complete Lack of Surprise.
     
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  5. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    Actually the CYA approach of the manufacturer is understandable, like I said previously. And I find it completely relevant, considering the headlines.
     
  6. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    So, your assertion is that the TSA tested the scanners, but that no independent testing has occurred?
     
  7. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    Likewise.
     
  8. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    I believe the manufacturers and TSA tested the equipment. I do not know of any independent testing.
     
  9. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    I don't know if it's "most". More pump users go through the scanner than opt-out where I'm at, but I don't know if it's the same at busier airports.
     
  10. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Why? Have you seen the results of the tests? Know anything about the test conditions?

    Or are you just taking your management's word for it - you know, the same people who're forbidding you from wearing a dosimeter even when operating a BSX or baggage X-ray, both of which definitely use ionizing radiation?
     
  11. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    You think I'm lying, so why do you care why I think they've tested it?
     
  12. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Unbelievable. You have truly drunk from the Kool-Aid pot.
     
  13. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    I would say the same of you.
     
  14. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    As I say in the introduction to my Master List of TSA Crimes and Abuses, and as I and others have said umpteen times throughout the Travel Underground forums, there is no way to know how many abuses, assaults, thefts, problems, incidents, whatever actually occur. There simply is no way to know, because no entity or organization is tracking them all, because most people don't have the benefit of a reporter standing by, because most people tell their stories only to family and friends, because some of the accounts in that list were told to me personally and they never showed up in the press.

    It is simply impossible to know how many insulin pumps have or have not been broken because of TSA procedures. I think we can all, regardless of where we stand, agree on this simple, obvious, common sense statement.
     
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  15. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Then America has a serious problem with TSA and you in particular. You are hazarding a person whose life relies on the proper operation of the insulin pump without the proper training or education.

    For the most part only people who are insulin dependent or tend to be insulin unaware use pumps. These people have their lives tied to the proper operation of the pump. I have shown you information from two pump manufacturers that state concerns with Whole Body Imaging systems and xrays devices.

    You are clearly a danger to people with insulin pumps and should be removed from screening duties. My concerns about this will be addressed with TSA.
     
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  16. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Even if they did test the scanners the testing methods and results are unknown to the people who are being scanned. That is an unacceptable situation.
     
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  17. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    ...and since you're unwilling to hold yourself to the same standards, I've come to the conclusion that you're ineducable - and a hypocrite to boot.
     
  18. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Good luck with that. Let us know if you actually get any response worth more than their standard boilerplate.
     
  19. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    My standards are a bit different than yours. I don't ask people why they believe something if I think they are lying about it.
     
  20. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    (shrug)

    What the rest of us here have learned from this thread is that TSA employees (assuming you really are one) have no qualms whatsoever about telling people that their doctors and the manufacturers of the devices that are keeping them alive and healthy are wrong - despite a complete lack of any knowledge in the field on which they're commenting.

    And I'd expect your standards to be different. You're voluntarily accepting a paycheck from the TSA.
     

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