Teen girl flies to Virginia rendezvous without parents' knowledge

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    There's nothing unusual here. Southwest, United and American all allow children 12 or over to fly unaccompanied. At Delta (fees, fees, we love fees) the minimum is 15.

    She could have made the trip on any airline.

    I do agree that it should have been detected. A vaunted BDO should have probed the depths of her mind and ascertained her evil intent. Perhaps she wasn't carrying sequential checks?
  3. rockon

    rockon Original Member

    Maybe the BDO was in the restroom hassling another passenger (happened to me).
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  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    rockon, care to tell your story with a little more detail so I can add it to the Master List? You don't have to use your real name if you don't want to, though details such as time, place, events would be helpful. You can either tell me here or PM me.
  5. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    When I was 12 I flew home early from a vacation with my parents, took a cab from the airport, and was by myself for about a week so I could get back to school.

    Creepy! :eek:
  6. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I've got a 15 year old daughter. If she chooses to use an aircraft for transportation, I don't want her hassled by authorities. If my daughter gets on an airplane alone to travel to another city, she'll have a good reason. I don't know what the reason would be, but I know it would be good. She's a very smart, sensible young lady.

    I know there are a lot of troubled teens out there, and I do sympathize with the parents of this child. They've got a rough row to hoe. I'd want to know why the parents of the other 15 year old didn't want to talk to the parents of their 15 year old female guest. When my daughter has a houseguest you can be sure that the guest's parents and I have discussed the matter ad nauseum. Are the other parents "contributing to the delinquency of a minor?" If I was the parent of this unruly 15 year old girl I'd consider pressing charges.

    15 year olds are more than capable of enjoying freedom of movement. The purpose of parents at this point in their lives is to act as guides and safety nets, not prison guards. I don't want authorities hassling my kids. I want them to trust authorities and go to them when they are in danger. If the parents of unruly children succeed in getting all children hassled by authorities at ever turn, my kids will have unpleasant encounters with these same authorities. I do not see how this is desirable.

    I have never agreed with the premise that people must show government ID to travel, or even board an aircraft. If a person isn't carrying a gun with ammo, combat knife, ricin or explosives, I don't see how s/he endangers the flight. Who cares if people fly with thousands of dollars, cocaine crammed in every orifice and a slew of warrants out for their arrest? I don't care, and the TSA shouldn't either.
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  7. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    I'm inclined to say this is a personal matter for both sets of parents, not the government, not the airlines, not TSA. I don't want to see "another layer of security" conceived and launched in reaction to this incident that ends up doing no good except to hassle every other traveler. I mean, come on, can you imagine what the TSA/DHS would cook up to address this situation?

    And further more, the boy's parents gave her a safe place to stay until her mother located her-they didn't kick her out to fend for herself in the streets of strange town. (I'm assuming the boy's parents didn't harm her either.)

    But yeah-it goes back to personal matter between the parents, they should have checked with each other regardless and know who was in their home under what circumstances.
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  8. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    When I was 17, I flew across the country without my parent's knowledge to see a girl I met on the Internet. My parents still don't know. ;)

  9. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    The people who think the airline employees should harass under age travelers aren't thinking things through. Let's pretend for a moment they succeed, and young travelers have to produce ID and proof of parental approval to travel:

    1. Young looking people may absolutely HAVE to produce ID.
    2. Desperate young travelers will hitchhike - like that's safer!
    3. Kids who could have traveled out of harm's way will have one more hurdle to overcome before reaching safety.
    4. Lazy POS parents will have codependents at the airport supporting their dysfunctionalism. No need to build a relationship with kids or put effort into raising them.
    5. Young travelers will have more nuisances to put up with when traveling.
    6. Zero young runaways will be caught
    7. Young runaways will be caught and subjected to batstuff crazy melodrama courtesy of CPS and/or returned to dangerous, dysfunctional custody situations.
    8. Young people will have one more reason not to trust authority figures to render assistance when they're in genuine danger.
  10. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    And what's next? Everyone has to produce an ID and proof of parental permission to ride the train, the subway, the city bus?

    No thanks. Responsibility starts aLOT closer to home.
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  11. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    The problem is, no one wants to take personal responsibility anymore.

    Which is precisely how we end up with things like the TSA.

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