Terminal Closures: Once more, with feeling (JFK, again)

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Once again, what is the purpose of closing the checkpoint if the person they screwed up with is no longer there?

    WCAX: JFK terminal security checkpoint briefly closed

    To make up for TSA's incompetence, everyone had to leave and re-clear security. It appears TSA tried to imply that there was no substantive impact, but you can't close a terminal entrance for at a hub for 22 minutes at peak travel time and then make everyone leave & reclear without significant impact.
     
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Okay, this is now the 8th such incident in the past 6 weeks.

    Why, oh why, do they always screen everyone again? Why do they re-screen everyone?? Do they think there was some kind of hand-off between Person Who Got Through and Someone Else?
     
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  3. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Precicely! We are all terrorists, even after we clear the checkpoint. All terrorists, all of the time! (</end TSA-speak> :rolleyes:
     
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  4. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Yes, and yet with the dangerous dagger in possession along with the arrestee (in the last event), the checkpoint was still closed for an additional two hours inexplicably.
    One way to get out of the test is to pull the fire alarm... :confused:
     
  5. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    When in bootcamp, everyone is punished for the transgression of one grunt. We are all under their authoritah...
     
  6. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Well TSA is going to tell the public that the improperly screened person might have handed off the magic non-existent bomb to someone else so TSA has to inconvenience everyone in the terminal by feeling them up again all while TSA employees get nothing more than "re-training". Seems failure to do ones job properly should be a firing event. Why aren't TSA employees held accountable for their failures?
     
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  7. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    IMHO, if this is truely the case, then the improperly screend person could have handed of the magic non-existent fairy-fart bomb to a TSA screener. Out of "an abundance of caution," I believe that the passengers should take it upon themselves to personally screen each and every screener that they encounter, even though another passenger has already "cleared" said screener because the passenger "clearing" said screener could have been the one handing off the fairy-fart bomb to said screener. :D
     
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  8. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Here are this morning's JetBlue flights scheduled from JFK thru 9 a.m.

    First, they lied. It did not happen before any flights had left. It happened in the middle of peak time flights. Average delays were 22 minutes before the debacle, 41 minutes after the debacle. The average added delay per flight was 19 minute. Multiply that by an average of 100 passengers (mix of A-320 & E-190 aircraft) & 19 flights, the total cost to passengers is approximately 602 man hours of time.

    One flight was scheduled to depart during the closure (7:10 a.m.) and several very soon after it was opened (7:32 a.m.).

    Actual departures (Flight # / Scheduled / Actual)
    (8 earlier departures are not listed here)

    JBU1002 / 6:40 / 6:51 / 11 mins
    JBU102 / 6:44 / 6 59 / 15 mins
    JBU755 / 6:55 / 7:03 / 8 mins
    JBU1305 / 6:55 / 7:15 / 20 mins
    JBU117 / 6:55 / 7:15 / 20 mins
    JBU191 / 6:55 / 7:34 / 39 mins
    JBU867 / 7:00 / 7:04 / 4 mins
    JBU715 / 7:00 / 7:22 / 22 mins
    JBU715 / 7:00 / 7:27 / 27 mins
    JBU811 / 7:00 / 7:30 / 30 mins
    JBU719 / 7:00 / 7:41 / 41 mins

    The above 19 flights appear not to have been impacted, average delay = 22 mins)

    The flights below appear to have been impacted, average delay = 36 mins)

    JBU987 / 7:29 / 8:32 / 63 mins
    JBU671 / 7:33 / 8:03 / 30 mins
    JBU27 / 7:50 / 8:35 / 45 mins
    JBU1061 / 7:56 / 8:43 / 47 mins
    JBU611 / 7:58 / 8:40 / 42 mins
    JBU219 / 8:00 / 8:29 / 29 mins
    JBU643 / 8:00 / 8:45 / 45 mins
    JBU1051 / 8:10 / 8:40 / 30 mins
    JBU863 / 8:17 / 8:33 / 16 mins
    JBU905 / 8:20 / 8:54 / 34 mins
    JBU49 / 8:00 / 8:54 / 54 mins
    JBU871 / 8:10 / 8:29 / 19 mins
    JBU341 / 8:13 / 8:56 / 43 mins
    JBU17 / 8:15 / 8:49 / 34 mins
    JBU717 / 8:37 / 8:53 / 17 mins
    JBU823 / 8:36 / 8:57 / 21 mins

    Pending departures (Flight # / Scheduled / Estimated / Delay)
    (Only the first three appear to be impacted, average delay = 65 mins)

    JBU181 / 8:29 / 9:05 / 36 mins
    JBU781 / 8:10 / 9:09 / 59 mins
    JBU44 / 7:37 / 9:16 / 99 mins

    JBU56 / 9:00 / 9:10 / 10 mins
    JBU57 / 9:00 / 9:11 / 11 mins
     
  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Or stash it somewhere inside the terminal. :D
     
  10. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Which ones? They couldn't have rescreened the concourse without far more substantial delays.
     

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