The Secret Government Laser That Instantly Knows Everything About You

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by CelticWhisper, Jul 10, 2012.

  1. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    See, this is another reason why I think someone (maybe us?) needs to go on the offensive and push for laws that preemptively forbid the kind of pervasive scanning and sampling that abominations like this permit. We're seeing the same kind of pushback just beginning with "Internet bill of rights" drafts in response to SOPA, PIPA, and ACTA. From BKSX/MMW nude-o-scopes, to "tunnel checkpoints," to this all-your-molecule-are-belong-to-us system, "security" industries are not going to stop coming up with novel ways to violate citizen privacy as long as they think there's a buck to be made.
  2. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member


    This expensive toy WILL. NOT. WORK. That's right, it's going to be another epic failure, and the tax dollars squandered will drive strapped taxpayers wild with fury.

    I apologize in advance to Tinkerbell, who may be the one exception, when I state:

    I do not believe in fairies, even if Janet Napolitano & John Pistole obviously do.

    I'm not buying any magic beans either. The Federal G0vernment is "full of beans" enough for all of us.
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  3. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Panopticon. Where everything, absolutely everything you do and are can be seen at all times.
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  4. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    I totally agree. However, sadly DHS will begin using this and it will give all sorts of false alarms, causing mountains of grief to those who fall victim to it.
  5. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Don't forget all the people who will swear on every bible twice that it works perfectly every time.
  6. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Spectroscopy and related techniques are used in a variety of disciplines and highly reliable. In astronomy spectral analysis is used to determine the chemical composition of distant planets.

    That said, put this in the hands of DHS & TSA and you'll get yet another waste of money, ala the puffer machines, AIT with a dismal reliability rates and the latest boondoggle, the ID scanners.

    It's hilarious that there are still propaganda stories on the new ID scanners showing up alongside current reports that they pulled the plug on the trials because they didn't work.
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  7. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Right, but who expects smurfs who barely prove they understand basic high school science to understand and correctly interpret spectrometry? And do it with in a few second for each passenger? Thousands of times a day?

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  8. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Agreed 100+%!! They could neither spell it nor pronounce it, let alone comprehend the technology!
  9. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Putting anything into the hands of a waste of money is just an additional waste of money.

    Putting it into the hands of a massive waste of amino acids, oxygen consumption, and carbon deficits is even worse.
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  10. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Maybe it will have a display with pretty flashing lights to keep the smurfs entertained.
  11. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I'm not so sure the flashing lights are entertaining. After all, they don't even notice when the lights aren't on.
  12. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    If this system is as sophisticated as some reports indicate, it will make the scanners seem like novelty x-ray glasses.

    The reports seem to indicate that it will not only generate a more detailed naked image than the NoS, but be able to detect chemicals into the parts per million range. If true, they will not only be able to tell what you had for breakfast, but what you last did in the restroom and assorted other intimate details of your activities and physical condition not discernible by scanners or even strip searches.

    Since this is done without your knowledge or consent, there will be no need for the scanners or any point to opting out of the remaining ones since TSA/DHS will have already violated the person's privacy to a far higher degree.

    The other problem is that like medical lasers, these are portable and will eventually make their way into the consumer market (there are usually dozens of old lasers on Craigslist and ebay) and be misused by by private citizens with no oversight at all.
  13. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    I wonder if there will be a public comment period on these infernal machines, as the TSA was supposed to do with WBI.
  14. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    These are ridiculously invasive machines. There is no way such personal details about your person, what you're wearing, what you recently ate, presumably also able to tell whether you had sex recently or not (and coming soon perhaps, with whom) what your heart rate is, and adrenaline level, all of these things are private and priviledged. It is a evil state indeed that wants to look into your privity to such an extent. It is really sick. Especially given the lack of bombing attempts.
  15. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    Who's going to be pushing for these laws??? Our lawmakers....???? What a joke they are.:td: There's no collective outrage at the epic failure and moral and financial bankruptcy of DHS. I have no hope of our lawmakers suddenly declaring war on Napolitano & Pistol - NONE
  16. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    Surely you jest.

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