The world's most difficult countries to travel through

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    If you want truly nasty, rude and arrogant people, then try out this site: LINK
    They make this site look like one run by Miss Manners.
     
  2. SATTSO

    SATTSO Original Member

    I am hesitant to open links post by you AngryMiller.... if we met in a dark alley, I do not doubt you would shank me while I reached out to shake you hand. So no thanks, I'll take your word for it. :)

    For about 3 or so months I didn't post in FT, and a few people have asked me why, some have even told me that they thought I got in trouble for what I post there. I stopped posting there when even 2 of the moderators said TSA people needed to be murdered. But recently some of the moderators were cracking down on that type of behavior, so I returned. I am not sure you understand just how arrogant, rude, nasty the people are on that site. And yes, one of those people is still a moderator on FT.
     
  3. SATTSO

    SATTSO Original Member

    ha! :)
     
  4. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    What do you expect after "you" threaten people, steal their belongings, feel them up as well as their wives, children and grandparents, then call them liars, terrorists, fat, etc. etc., and then look at them naked?! Your organization is disgusting, and pisses off more and more people on a daily basis. I guess you think we should be happy for you that you get to do this to innocent citizens in a "free" country.

    Why don't you let random posters come over to your house and do the same to your wife and children. Then maybe they can visit your parents and spill urine on them and have your Mom/Grandma remove their fake breasts as cancer survivors, we can wave it around in the grocery store in front of other strangers for them. Fun Fun.

    How would you react if somebody did this to your loved ones?
     
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  5. SATTSO

    SATTSO Original Member

    I wouldn't abuse or verbally attack someone else, thats for sure...

    But as your post proves, people will always make excuse for their bad behavior toward others.
     
  6. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    Yeah, sure you wouldn't if somebody did such things to your loved ones.

    To you, excuses, to us, reasons. These feelings don't come from nowhere. We don't have to make up things to justify our feelings and attitude, the TSA does a great job of providing examples on their own, and you appear to contribute to that. For every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction, we're just lucky that the the reaction thus far has not been actual action. But you keep on giving excuses for assaulting citizens, you seem to enjoy it. Stick and stones and all, but you're the one physically assaulting and embarrassing citizens.
     
  7. SATTSO

    SATTSO Original Member

    Is that how you justify your behavior toward others, claim they would do the same in your situation? Pathetic and immature. You can do better.
     
  8. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member

    When I am demeaned by some tinpot wearing a 50 cent badge for the crime of wanting to get on an airplane and travel, you're damned right I'm going to give it back.

    Respect is a 2 way street. Give it, and you might receive it.

    When the TSA learns to respect the people who pay their salaries, then maybe we'll start being nice....tho I'd rather the TSA went away completely.
     
  9. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Please give me an example of where I personally can "not take it."

    Guess I hit a really sore spot, didn't I? :D
     
  10. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Agreed. In the meantime, TSOs can throw all the disrespect they can muster my way and I'll just grin. The shock-value routine isn't fooling me - I grew up with one of the great masters of shock value and IRL trolling.

    What I'll do in addition to grinning is continue to apply pressure to my elected officials to cut the TSA's legs out from under it and eviscerate any authority it thinks it ever had. All the berating and yelling and insults in the world cannot stop the pen in my hand from composing letter after letter to my Senators and Representatives, stating that TSA is a failed experiment and we need to cut our losses (and TSOs' jobs) as soon as humanly possible.

    Rats on a sinking ship.
     
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  11. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    There you go again. You can't defend the assault and injustice that you and your brethren do to citizens, but keep on attacking and insulting, it is the only quality you have at this point. I don't expect any more from you.

    You get fairly bothered by the comments about TSA and it's actions, I can't imagine you would respond well to the physical assaults that are perpetrated on citizens daily much less the thievery or assaults on your loved ones.
     
  12. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    I wonder if those who are so extremely defensive of the TSA know, deep down inside, that what they are doing is wrong but are afraid to admit it for fear of losing their jobs. "Methinks they doth protest too much."
     
  13. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    Well, I changed jobs this year. When I had two opportunities appear, one that paid well and required travel, and one that paid less and required no travel. It's obvious which I one I took. I am also, effectively, turning down a position this week that pays very well due to the travel requirement. Words can not easily express the feelings I have for our government and the TSA.
     
  14. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    No, I would not surrender as little as one attosecond of my personal freedom by shanking either your or any of your coworkers. It just isn't worth it. Your agency had a chance to do right by the American people and it failed - dismally. After been repeatedly lied to by your management over things that aren't SSI, I've come to the conclusion (edit begins) anyone working at TSA/DHS is not to be trusted.

    Poor baby SATTSO wants people to be nice to him. Man up. People in your agency treated me and many others shabbily after TSA's inception. Now those same people want us to treat TSOs nicely. Won't happen until TSA has a massive reform and deals with the people who caused the problems in the first place. You guys had the support of the nation behind you or do you forget that? You guys squandered the good will of 300 million people and now have the audacity to whine about not being treated well by those same people whose good will your agency and coworkers wiped your collective behinds on. Your agency and coworkers violated the trust the American people had in you. Stop your sniveling. (edit ends)
     
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  15. SATTSO

    SATTSO Original Member

    Are you an idiot? I don't want people to be nice to me. I certainly don't expect it. I am simply pointing out why I treat some of the people the way I do, such as you. You deserve to be treated badly. Just my opinion. :)
     
  16. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Seconded. I wouldn't kill a TSO.

    ...but I'd let one die.
     
  17. SATTSO

    SATTSO Original Member

    You say this...yet find something morally wrong with what TSA does. Seems you are just as bad, if not worse, than anyone at TSA.
     
  18. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Not from where I'm standing.

    See, I didn't start this downward spiral - TSA did. My willingness to stand by and do nothing while a TSO's life expires is not an attempt to initiate a conflict, but is rather a response to an unethical organization violating my individual liberty. If TSA were to operate strictly within the bounds of the Constitution and respect people's freedom from warrantless and unreasonable searches (not to mention sexual assault), then I would take steps to save the life of a dying TSO. I may not succeed in that goal as I'm not a doctor but I would do as much as I could.

    Now, though? Now that TSOs irradiate people at airports and tell them "it's perfectly safe"? Now that they molest people and say "There is nothing wrong with what we're doing because we're following some (expletive deleted) rules laid down by some pencilneck in Washington"? Now that a counter doesn't exist with gears and wheels strong enough to withstand spinning fast enough to keep track of the number of civil-rights violations perpetrated by TSOs every goddamn day? Now, would I save a TSO's life?

    (expletive deleted), no.

    I'd watch it drown while I play the world's tiniest violin. Maybe go grab a sandwich and some coffee afterwards. Because why should I want to preserve the existence of a lifeform that would turn right around and bark "Do you want to fly today?" in my face as soon as I pull it out of deep water?
     
  19. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Idiot? No. While I can make personal attacks against you, why bother? Your kind are sub-humans anyhow. How's that for dehumanizing you? Like it? We passengers sure don't when your agency abuses us. Stolen anything lately? Like that? We sure don't when passing through Checkpoint Charlie just to fly. You and your coworkers brought much of this about and now whine because no one likes you. IMHO the worst sex worker in the world has a higher moral ground than your typical TSO. Consider that for a moment.... We don't like your agency for what has done, what it continues to do, and for what it will do tomorrow.
     
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  20. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member

    Now, I'd keep the TSO alive so he could stand trial.
     

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