TSA’s radiation dosimeters: where are they?

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Lisa Simeone, May 15, 2012.

  1. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    At TSA News:

    TSA’s radiation dosimeters: where are they?
    by LISA SIMEONE on MAY 15, 2012
    And he has started a petition to try to get the TSA to give a toss.
     
  2. Al Coholic

    Al Coholic Member

    (expletive deleted) no! If they are stupid enough to work around uncertified and poorly maintained radiation-emitting equipment without protection, if they are spineless enough not to demand dosimeters from the get-go, and if they are depraved enough to grope little kids - they deserve every bit of radiation they get exposed to. After all, if they don't like it, they don't have to work there.

    Edited for "grammer"
     
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  3. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    We're trying to get more people on our side, Al.
     
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  4. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    There are some "allies" we don't need.
     
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  5. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    The amount of radiation emitted from these scanners is no doubt "SSI" - even from their own employees. That's usually the excuse passengers get when questioning the TSA.
     
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  6. Al Coholic

    Al Coholic Member

    With friends like those... I mean, seriously, they are either too stupid to recognize health risks or too spineless to do anything about it (not to mention lack of ethics). Do you REALLY want this kind of people on your side?
     
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  7. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    There are people reading these forums, reading TSA News, reading media accounts, whom we want on our side. If we just say stuff like "oh, everyone associated with TSA can go to (expletive deleted)," we won't get those people on our side. I want to win this thing (though I'll probably be dead before it happens), not just score points in a game of who can come up with the best insults.

    And as I've said till I'm blue in the face, most people -- most people, no matter who/where/what/how they are -- including people on this forum -- most people, when put in positions of unlimited power, will abuse that power.
     
  8. Ciarin

    Ciarin Member

    I'm curious if other people who use xray scanners have dosimeters, like at the courthouse, et al.
     
  9. Al Coholic

    Al Coholic Member

    That's a fair point. On the other hand, if people do not recognize what TSA is doing for what it is - gross violation of rights, creeping fascism, dehumanization of passengers, sexual molestation, whatever you want to call it - they are probably a lost cause anyways. Or they haven't had their first anal probe yet.

    That's why decent people stay away from such positions. And that's why checks and balances are critical.
     
  10. RB

    RB Founding Member

    TSA doesn't want to issue dosimeters because doing so would clearly demonstrate that the Backscatter Strip Search Machines emit radiation and that could alarm the public.

    The cold facts of the matter, TSA employees who stand by these devices are the dosimeters. Only problem is it will be some years before it is known just how bad the exposure was, courtesy of TSA Administrator John S. Pistole.
     
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  11. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I would be concerned not only with the Backscatter devices but all emitters including checked and carry on bag scanners.
    Just how do you know if there is a leak or other malfunction?
     
  12. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    My son in law works in a nuclear power plant. He wears one supplied by his company. Long before 9/11 we took a tour of that plant and along with a hard hat we were also given dosimeters to wear.
     
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  13. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I think we asked this question in thread many moons ago, but what if the dosimeters don't tell the full story? That is, the dosimeter might measure quantity, but the issue is the type of radiation (low energy particles rather than high energy for normal x-rays) and its effect on the skin, as barbell noted, the low energy ones of the backscatter being absorbed by the skin rather than passing thru or bouncing off. The absorbed particles are what can cause the cancer, and this is happening over the entire skin surface of your body, which does not handle this stuff well at all.

    I fully expect an attempted coverup at CDC when the clusters start appearing.
     
  14. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

  15. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    That was last August. I wonder what the results were. Have been trying to find an update on-line.
     
  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    That's the issue for the scanNEES. We're talking about dosimeters for the scanNORS, the Smurfchen operating and working around the scanners. Their problem is incidental radiation at unknown dosages. One study noted potentially hazardous levels of radiation being emitted to the side of the scanners. The dosimeters are needed to measure the cumulative dosages received by standing around all day, a task for which Smurfchen seem to be particularly adept.
     
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  17. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    oh. I'm sorry. I was only asking about the folks I cared about.
     

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