TSA Admits $1B Nude Body Scanner Fleet Worthless! (My New Video)

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Affection, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. Affection

    Affection Original Member

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  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    John, fab, and I'll put it up at TSA News. But I have one concern, and I wonder if "Jennifer" does, too. Has she seen this video? I don't think her face is sufficiently blurred. Just my take. I think she's entirely recognizable to people who know her. Could get her into trouble. Can you blur it more? And change her voice? Maybe it's just cause I've spent 30 years in radio, but to me voices are easily recognizable.
     
  3. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    But as Jon said, as of today she's no longer "one of them"
     
  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Ah! Sorry, you're right, I missed that. Yikes.
     
  5. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    Re: "Jennifer" -- She just doesn't want to become "famous" -- she knows that the TSA will know who she is.

    --Jon
     
  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Now at TSA News. Thanks, Jon:
    Jon Corbett’s new video: TSA screener admits scanners are a boondoggle
    by LISA SIMEONE on APRIL 10, 2012
     
  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    TSA may try claiming that Jennifer revealed SSI and try to charge her with a crime.
     
  8. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

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  9. RB

    RB Founding Member

    If she wants to keep a government job she should follow the protest procedures. The Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB) http://www.mspb.gov/ often overturn local rulings.
     
  10. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    That would be interesting, actually. Has the legal status of "SSI" ever been tested in court? I know actual classifications have long been upheld but I thought SSI was another one of TSA's administrative inventions.

    Would love to see it go to court and get shot down.
     
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  11. It would also be interesting to see how they'd charge her with revealing SSI when she never had access to the SOP book. It sounds like SOP is more like folklore -- passed around through word of mouth, evolves as time goes by. How can that be legally binding?
     
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  12. RB

    RB Founding Member

    SSI seems to be a DHS designation but I think it would be upheld as a valid classification. That TSA employees sign off on not releasing anything determined to be SSI is what would get them in trouble. Discussing the capabilities of the Strip Search Machines could easily fall into release of information determined by TSA to be SSI.

    What I have never figured out is why any part of federal government needs a different system for controlling information since a long standing classification system is in place. I suspect it was a way to not have a real security clearance for every TSA employee, since those are hard to come by for your average TSA criminal.
     
  13. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    Thank you Jon. I'm sending this link to Senators Roberts and Moran and Rep. Yoder tonight.

    Phoebepontiac, that's exactly what I was thinking. Sort of like a CO taking orders and then verbally relaying them amongst many people who are then to repeat those orders, while telling you to trust him that he is following the orders as they were written. Sounds like a sham to me.
     
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  14. Also, what if the only guy who told you, such and such is SSI, gets arrested for running a prostitution ring? Is that legally binding?
     
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  15. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Exactly. It's an end-run around the existing classifications, which have specific requirements. By calling it "SSI," the TSA believes that they can simply deny access to anything they want to declare as "SSI" without having to meet the justifications of the real classifications and compartmentalizations.
     
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  16. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    Your bolded speculation is exactly correct. SSI was invented because the TSA didn't want the oversight extended to real classified information, because none of it even remotely fits the definition of CONFIDENTIAL information (the lowest category of real classified information) from Executive Order 13526:

    The other reason for creating SSI was to motivate the clerk-force by making them feel like they know "secrets." They can run around telling everyone that the cafeteria lunch menus are SSI and feel proud about it. If SSI were real secrets, the TSA would have to build secure alarmed rooms at airports, bring in safes, have a security plan, etc. They couldn't afford all of this and it would be very painful for them. So, SSI fills the bill as an essential part of Security Theater.

    Here is a copy of the SSI nondisclosure agreement taken right from the TSA website: http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/NDA_v2.pdf
    Paragraph 11 sounds as if it would be the "forever" paragraph. So, the legal loophole is there for the TSA to make an example of her. But, they would have to prove in court that the information she disclosed was, in fact, SSI. If it came to this, a good defense attorney would turn things around and put SSI and the TSA on trial. Given these stakes, I suspect the TSA will do nothing because they can't win.

    Further, I expect Blogdad Bob to completely ignore this second video, unless Pissy wants to use the blog as a venue to preach SSI to the masses.
     
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  17. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    It's an interesting question. She never had access to the SOP book and it sounded like she'd never even seen it. Maybe it's a mythical book? ;)

    What did Jennifer actually reveal? If I stood by a checkpoint and just watched over a period of time would I 'see it all'? If so, then I don't see how any of that could be secret since we're allowed to view and film checkpoints. Private discussions between her and her supervisors are another matter and I don't know if those would be considered SSI.
     
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  19. RB

    RB Founding Member

    You are not a covered person, Jennifer is and she told the world that the machines are faulty.
     
  20. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    I understand, but as FliesWay2Much points out -- "But, they would have to prove in court that the information she disclosed was, in fact, SSI. If it came to this, a good defense attorney would turn things around and put SSI and the TSA on trial."

    If she didn't disclose SSI, what's the charge going to be?
     

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