Video TSA agent admits detaining people is not really about airline safety

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, Sep 5, 2012.

  1. RB

    RB Founding Member

    You can't hurt the smurfs, just tease till the cows come home.
     
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The woman was fortunate (1) that a flight was available and (2) that the airline rebooked her at no cost. With loads running 90% and higher (1) is not a sure bet, and (2) is never a sure bet.

    If this woman hadn't been so fortunate, costs could have ranged from $100 up for rebooking (change fees run $100-$300, sometimes plus buy-up to currently available/last-minute fares), and overnight accommodations can easily cost $100 & upwards. A couple thousand dollars isn't all that unusual to rebook an international itinerary. At the extreme end, a well-planned vacation would have to be scrapped or an important business meeting not attended, with potential costs in the thousands.

    All because a couple anal-sphincter screeners with two-digit IQ's and no self-esteem were miffed that the passenger drank her water! Almost unbelievable, but we know all two well that the lowlifes working for TSA are fully capable of this behavior.

    This is yet another example of why my wife & I (each formerly 125,000-mile-per-year flyers) will not fly again as long as these vermin are infesting our airports.
     
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  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Amy Alkon @ Mens News Daily: Proof The TSA Is About Retaliation And Obedience Training For The American Public

    TSA hires are unskilled workers, slightly trained, who would never have worked their way to a position of power over other people, but who have power over the people who, in many other workplaces, would likely have had power over them.

    The apparent personal egotistical missions of many of them dovetail with what I wrote in my op-ed about the TSA that I believe to be the government mission -- obedience training for the American public so we'll be polite and docile in the face of having our rights taken from us.

    A woman shows, with her cellphone audio, that it's indeed about power grabs and not about security. She was singled out for a "drink test" at the gate (where they stick some wick in your drink to "make sure" it's not explosive) and drank her water rather than letting them test it. She was kept from boarding her plane because of it!

    The TSA thug made it clear that their keeping her off her plane was "retaliatory," that it was as he said, "About (her) attitude..." not about keeping people safe.

    Via Lisa Simeone at TSA News Blog, the text below the video the woman posted on September 1, 2012:

    This was inside the terminal at the Houston airport. I was not allowed to board a plane (even though I had already been through airport security) because I drank my water instead of letting the TSA "test" it. The TSA agent finally admitted that it wasn't because they thought I was a security risk-it was because they were mad at me!​
    I was able to get on the very next flight out of houston-and even managed an upgrade! (thanks United)​
    Sorry for crappy phone video-but the audio is what I wanted to post.​
    I know this is not really news (it seems like the TSA is retaliating all the time against people), but it was a little satisfying to get that statement on video.​
    Is this the country we want to be living in? Is this what our Founding Fathers risked their lives for and gave everything to?
     
  4. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Rugape, what is TSA's response suppose to be in the case of a person consuming a beverage instead of submitting to TSA testing?
     
  5. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    What difference does their response make? The whole notion is ridiculous on its face.

    Like everything else the TSA does, the "beverage testing" is pure theatre, designed to make the general public believe the TSA is doing something useful so that a bunch of morons, thieves, and thugs can continue to collect a paycheck for abusing the public under color of authority.

    Don't be fooled by the illusion that any of them appear to be intelligent or level-headed - if they're not stupid, they're evil.
     
  6. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I would like a TSA employee to tell us just what happens in the case mentioned. Surely TSA considered such an event before rolling out a policy that serves no useful purpose.

    When a person is deprived of their rights without benefit of law as shown in the video there has to be consequences. TSA seems ready to violate peoples civil rights and it is time to hold them accountable.
     
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  7. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I can't give you specific info because it would be SSI. We also do not know the circumstances leading up to this 22 second snippet, impossible to comment past "I would notify the STSO" without knowing the whole situation. Not possible to tell you much more than that without going into SSI, so - "I would notify my STSO" to the question you posed.
     
  8. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    What's the point in even asking when you already know that the answer will be either an outright lie, or the excuse that it's SSI?
     
  9. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    ...of course it is.
     
  10. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    What I'm really looking forward to is, when TSA finally gets abolished, the massive publication of all of their Secret Squirrel Ineptitude information for anyone who wants to read it. The SSI sacred cow needs to be fed through an industrial meat grinder to the sound of 65000 TSCs whining and stomping their feet, yelling "NO, NO, NooooOOOOOOoooooo!"
     
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  11. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    As long as there are people corrupt enough to be willing to say "I can't tell you the rules you're required to follow because they're secret," the TSA will survive.
     
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  12. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Now linked on Drudge. TSA continues making a name for itself. Of course it's the worst name in the history of the country. I swear TSA has joined Al-Qaeda .


    Rugape, how in the (expletive deleted) could telling us what happens if a person consumes a beverage instead of letting TSA test it be SSI? That is such a ridiculous claim. There really are only a few of options, do nothing, call someone, or deprive the person of their civil rights without cause which seems to be what TSA will actually do.

    I hope your proud to belong to such a despicable cowardly organization.

    TSA, America's Al-Qaeda!
     
  13. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Is there anything you can talk about.... cause everytime I hear this SSI :trash: makes me torque there is nothing TSA does that needs any clearence.

    TSA version of contempt of cop. This Bull (expletive deleted) from these tuck fards has got to stop.
     
  14. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    FIFY
     
  15. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Because what is in the SOP as far as responses and security protocols are listed as SSI, it is just that simple. I already told you that my response in the situation is to let the STSO know, and that is all that I can say.
     
  16. RB

    RB Founding Member

    So you violated SSI by telling me you would call someone?
     
  17. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Nope.
     
  18. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Either you're lying, or you're not following SOP...

    If it's SOP to notify a supervisor, and SOP is SSI, then you just violated it by revealing it.

    If it's NOT SOP, and therefore not SSI, then you're not following SOP. And if it IS SOP and NOT SSI, you lied about it being SSI earlier.

    Color me unsurprised.
     
  19. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Does seem to be doing a jig on the edge of a razor, eh.
     
  20. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Just goes to show that truth and logic have nothing to do with being a TSA employee, and are probably contraindicated somewhere in the hiring process right along with the other things TSA employees lack - like a soul, a moral compass, and anything resembling ethics or honor.
     

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