TSA Backfire

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Wimpie, Sep 1, 2011.

  1. Wimpie

    Wimpie Original Member

    Remember when TSA was stirring up fear when they leaked the possibility of surgically implanted explosives or explosives in body cavities? Seems like it backfired on them.

    In the 9/11 Commission's new progress report, the report gave a thumbs-down to the airport's new whole-body scanners, saying they fail to detect some explosives hidden within the body.

    Could this be good?
     
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  2. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    I don't see how it could be bad, so yes! ^ Do you have a link so we can gloat?
     
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    At one point they also admitted that the Nude-O-Scopes would not have detected the underwear bomber, despite using the underwear bomber as the excuse du jour for accelerating their roll-out and make them primary. If it can't detect explosive undies, it surely can't detect implanted explosives.

    The 9/11 Commissions report is hardly a surprise. The problem is getting Congress to start connecting the dots.
     
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  4. FriendlySkies

    FriendlySkies Member

    The GAO report even said:

    http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d10401t.pdf
     
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  5. Wimpie

    Wimpie Original Member

    http://www.bipartisanpolicy.org/sites/default/files/CommissionRecommendations.pdf
    Page 18
     
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  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I have a close friend who used to work for the GAO. Way before the current reign of molestation, she said that every report they did on the TSA showed the agency was incompetent.

    As for good news, I don't know; I can see them saying that since their fancy machines won't detect internal bombs, they have to give everybody a cavity search.
     
  7. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    I just posted that LHR is testing the MMW with the 'new' technology which Germany failed, and that the Transport ministry says that MMW could replace WTMD completely.

    DOH!

    In the same week that Germany gives them a fail rating, the UK thinks that they could be great?!! And now this report?
     
  8. darwin76

    darwin76 Original Member

    Now they just have to hire some pizza box doctors for a little exploratory surgery at the checkpoint.

    "I will insert this scalpel into that old surgical scar until I meet resistance. DYWTFT?"
     
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  9. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    Another uh oh... if L3 version doesn't work, maybe this will. :eek:

    http://www.correctionsone.com/produ...ecurPass-allows-for-full-body-cavity-imaging/
     
  10. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    The most disturbing word in that entire post.
     
  11. FriendlySkies

    FriendlySkies Member

    :eek:

    Click here to see photos of the scans! :eek:

    http://massecurityimaging.com/see-for-yourself.html#

    Installed Location:

    • Collier County Jail - Florida
    • Calhoun County Jail - Alabama
    • Cook County Department of Corrections - Illinois
    • Coleman Federal Prison - Florida
    • Hethrow Airport - London
    • Glasgow Airport - London
    • Birmingham International Airport - Birmingham, UK
     
  12. snapstoo

    snapstoo Original Member

    "It's happened to Rikers Island and LA county- to name a few, where some were angry being strip searched on a misdemeanor and claimed a violation of the 4th amendment which protects against unreasonable search and seizure," Brown said. Many courts are saying you can't violate the constitutional rights of people; we offer an alternative to that."

    eeek
     
  13. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Is this x-ray technology?
     
  14. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Yes it is x-ray technology. LINK

    Capable of penetrating 30mm (about 1.25 inches) of steel.
     
  15. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Yikes. I wish I hadn't seen that.

    For the machines that are in operation at UK airports .... it's not clear to me if they are in operation for all passengers or only for those passengers who customs agents have detained? The other machines are all in prisons, so I'm curious..
     
  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The lawsuits, they are a comin'.

    I predict this company will be bankrupted & out of business in 15-30 years.
     
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  17. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    I believe customs only. I have seen MMW and BSX at LHR which look like the versions used in the US in the various terminal screening areas.

    If I recall, some consider this more humane than the clear toilet and/or an internal exam.
     
  18. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Right. I think I've heard that too, now that you mention it.
     
  19. myadvice

    myadvice Original Member

    This is what irks me; the machines authorized in law were explosive detection machines. The nude scanners in their current form don't detect anything; they simply show a nude image to the clerk.

    On the other site I mentioned the diamond mine x-rays. There was speculation that it could be a little as an (overpriced) software change for the current cancer boxes to image in this way.
     
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  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I don't care how much these machines are refined. They still represent gross violations. I won't be treated like a criminal. (And I don't even like to use that analogy because I don't think criminals should be treated this way either -- whole 'nother story.) No matter what dystopian future awaits us, I will refuse to step into one of these things.
     
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