TSA "Changing" Grope-Downs for Children

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by FriendlySkies, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. FriendlySkies

    FriendlySkies Member

    Just found this lovely puff-piece, from TSA, on MSNBC.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43496079/ns/travel-news/

    My question to Pissy.. I understand that things like these happen overseas, but when has a child ever been a suicide bomber in the United States of America?

    I really feel as though this is just in an effort to get people to cool-down after the recent child grope-downs that made the news, allowing them to then "change" it back to the old way in a few months. Hopefully somebody will have some common sense, but we know that the common-sense at TSA is used for choosing between the different types of donuts, not the methods of screening that millions of people have to endure.
     
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  2. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    Pissy needs to placate at some point so this just might be the opportunity. IMO it's not enough.
     
  3. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    That's really all this is. Just like his PR handling of the gentleman with the broken/spilled urostomy bag.
     
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  4. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    :confused: Seriously, how much work does this take? Elsewhere TSA has been "working on" automatic target recognition for the NoS; "working on" liquid scanners; "working on" new procedures for screening people with disabilities, and on and on...

    None of this is rocket science. (I know, 'cause I studied rocket science, and this ain't it!) AMS has the ATR; Japan has liquid scanners; every country in the world except the USA screens children, the elderly and people with disabilities without getting on YouTube every week. Stop "working on it" and just fracking DO IT!!!! :mad:
     
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  5. RATM

    RATM Original Member

    He's already a straight up liar on this issue. He said the patdown was different for children back around Thanksgiving. Thats just a lie.
     
  6. VH-RMD

    VH-RMD Original Member

    it takes a lot of time to haul those morbidly obese bodies around - so you can't expect anything will be done in a hurry. That and the general lack of education and intelligence which makes up the TSA.
     
  7. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    The bit about changing the gropedown for kids is another lie. He won't change squat. I've lost track of the number of lies this man and the PR goons of the TSA have spouted. They're all pathological liars.

    Anyone who believes Incompitano, Pistole or any of their spokesholes is a complete sucker.
     
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  8. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member

    Its pretty simple. End the gropes entirely. There is 0 reason for me to be felt up for the crime of traveling on an airplane.
     
  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

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  10. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    The police don't do it for DUI stops so why should TSA do it unless you alarm the WTMD?
     
  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Jaunted is suggesting the if children aren't fondled, they'll be scanned in the Perv-O-Scopes:

    Jaunted: TSA Stops Patting Down Kids, Promises to Run Them Through Screeners Instead

    So instead they'll be irradiated by non-professional non-radiologists and leered at by perverts in the viewing boths.

    At least Jaunted does understand what's going on:

     
  12. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    Unfortunately I think that this sad story may just reaffirm the belief many hold that children should be treated as possible instruments of terror....

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/06/26/uk-afghanistan-bomb-girl-idUKTRE75P0RP20110626
     
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The U.S. version of this story would be that the terrorist sends the little girl to give the bomb to the ID checker in an airport security line, where large numbers of passengers are waiting to be groped and scoped. She'd never get as far as being groped or scoped herself -- maximum carnage is right around the ID checker at a busy airport, where large numbers of people are pack into zig-zag lines.
     
  14. Doober

    Doober Original Member

  15. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    The little girl carried the bomb in a bag. Unless she were in Hawaii, that would be screened and perhaps caught by TSA assuming the bag screener got a good nights sleep.

    She would not have been able to pass even a visual had she carried this under her clothing. For the analy rententive (TSA clerks and their bosses) this could be further accounted for by passive millimeter wave devices like this one:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_EENmY0VNw
    no strip search or groping is needed.

    At some point, discretion is going to have to be exercised. Diapers, implants, articles of feminine hygiene will show up as anomalies in any current snooper tech. You cannot have clerks feeling up passengers who have those.
     
  16. RadioGirl

    RadioGirl Original Member

    And the TSA scare-mongering version of the story would be that the little girl was caught before she got on the plane with her bomb because (pick one) (a) she didn't have a valid driver's license ( :rolleyes: ) and the TDC refused to let her in, (b) a BDO intercepted her since she was acting (in his words) "hinky", (c) the screener running the x-ray saw something that looked like a water bottle (stack of cash, bag of drugs) and called for a bag check, (d) the screener in the pervo-booth decided that he'd like to look at a naked 8-year-old girl again there was an Anomaly on the scan and called for a groping session respectful and professional non-sexual pat down search.

    Because "everyone knows" that the bad guy would never simply detonate the bomb at the checkpoint. ;)
     

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