TSA Exposed my Breast after pulling my dress down on 2/19/12

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Holycowjenny, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Hi! I am new to your site. Someone on youtube told me about yall. I will add the link to my video and my story. If someone knows anyone in the national media intersted in this story, feel free to pass it on.
    Thank you so much!
    Jenny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sthYZIf_xTA
     
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

  3. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

  4. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Hi Mike! thank you so much! That Fisher was the one that told me about yall and suggested I share with yall as well... thank you!!!
     
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  5. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Hi Jenny! I'm glad you found us.

    I think your story has news value since it is far more intrusive than the woman who was repeatedly scanned, although that was a travesty in itself.

    I sent you a reply via You Tube and perhaps as a group we can help get this out to the mainstream media. People really need to know that these kinds of invasions aren't that uncommon.
     
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  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

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  7. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Thank you Fisher!!! It really means alot...I was very reluctant to share because I didn't think anyone would care, and I am kind of ashmed about it...It is sooo degrading.
    I am doing a radio show on Monday with Houston Free Thinkers Live? I believe it is...I will confirm and let yall know!
     
  8. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Hi Lisa! I sooooo apprieciate that! Thank you! I am about to check it out...as I am very new to this whole site ;) Thank you for the support!
     
  9. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Hello and welcome to the Forum,
    thank you for sharing your story and of course we care. It just not right at any level.
    Stick around and read through the threads here, many of us care because we've going through similar incidents, some worse, and we don't believe any of this is acceptable. It's a good support group at the very least and there's a lot of member with good information or good ideas to point whatever you need in the right direction.
     
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  10. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Thank you so much! I wonder if maybe I should have put in in writing for the reader? I apprieciate what yall are doing, and I will go through and read..I have just been a bit withdrawn lately...I'm glad I got connected with yall..Bill Fisher has been awsome. :)
     
  11. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    Welcome Jenny. TSA seems to have some bizarre fascination with skirts and dresses. Unfortunately, many women don't care. Often I read online from frequent female travellers that 'it didn't happen to them, therefore it didn't happen'. End of story.

    Sorry it happened to you, but the story needs to be spread and more people need to become angry about this.
     
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  12. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Thank you so much! I am trying to get it out there....I wasn't going to say anything but I think it is in the interst of the public, so I feel I have a duty. I am waiting to here back from a lawyer. I contacted Amy Alkon's lawyer and he is going to contact a laawyer friend of his in Orlando that he does alot of work with, so we shall see what happens! Thank you for your support! :)
     
  13. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    Good for you. I will admit that long ago I was sceptical about some of the stories (that was about 5-6 years ago) but after experiencing it myself many times, I know that these stories can and do happen much more than we hear about online and in the media.

    Not that many women wear skirts or dresses for travel, so that already reduces the number of us who have encounters regarding skirts/dresses. But there are some pretty awful stories about what can happen, and since TSA has several times said that SOP is that ALL skirts/dresses are to receive a pat down (even if that doesn't always happen), I believe that this is a topic which needs to be heard.

    Best of luck, and this is definitely somewhere to find support as well as advice.
     
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  14. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Back when I flew, I always wore a dress. Always. For several reasons:

    -I like looking put-together and I hate that so many Americans dress like they're just about to clean the garage -- or already have. If you need help, for any reason, you're usually treated better if you don't look like a slob.

    -I always chose a clingy, jersey dress. Obvious that I wasn't concealing anything. And jersey travels well, doesn't wrinkle, is comfy, etc.

    -With a one-piece outfit, the smurfs couldn't lift a blouse or pull back the waistband of a skirt/pants. This was before the implementation of the gropes, mind you. But I had still heard stories of the idiots sometimes pulling people's shirts away from their bodies or other such stupid crap.

    Even Pistole himself has said -- and it says on the TSA's website if I recall correctly -- that at no time is a smurf ever allowed to put his/her hands under a skirt or dress. This has been explicitly stated. Yet we all know they do it all the time. They don't need to, of course, as a thin lawyer of cloth doesn't impede a "pat-down." But since when have they ever followed their own rules?
     
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  15. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    I couldn't agree more with Lisa, and beyond a simply having civil regards for myself-I'm not saying we have to dress like the Oscar red carpet, just simply presentable for the being in public-I should not ever, NEVER have to justify why I choose to wear a skirt or dress. Not in this country, I firmly believe that until the very day we're all issued mandatory uniforms 'befitting of our stations.' At which point, our society would have even greater problems to deal with.
     
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  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    As does my wife, always. It's just the way she chooses to dress.

    Back when I first met her she wore jeans but was very picky -- only liked one particular brand & style. At the time she was working in a clean room & had to suit up for it, so skirts weren't an option at work then. Today I can't remember when I last saw her in jeans or pants.

    That would be me. :)
     
  17. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Ya know it's funny..I do not wear a whole lot of dresses, but I do have a couple of them I like to wear because they are comfortable, and between Orlando and Texas it gets pretty stinkin hot. I actually wore that dress that morning, without even thinking about TSA, when I got up at 3 am to get ready..I just thought that I wanted to be comfortable and don't like to wear jeans on a flight, because that can be really uncomfortable after sitting for so long in a small space. Now I have to have the trouble of worrying about what I am going to wear so that this doesn't happen to me again, and avoid public humiliation and being exposed. I should not have this kind of anxiety. I just want to get on my flight and get to my destination without being harrassed and have a panic attack. ;)
     
  18. RB

    RB Founding Member

    When dealing with TSA going without straps isn't a good idea.
     
  19. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Yea, I think I learned that the hard way unfortunatley. :(
     
  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Yes, I would never wear a strapless dress through security, even back in the pre-grope days.
     

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