TSA Exposed my Breast after pulling my dress down on 2/19/12

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Holycowjenny, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Why would they? Failed burger flippers rarely have any assets worth mentioning.

    In both of the lawsuts I mentioned above, there are also police officers who are being sued. They are usually indemnified by contract with their employers. It is the police officers and departments that have the deep pockets to make the lawsuits worth pursuing.
     
    Holycowjenny likes this.
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Well, yes and no. You are thinking of the fair housing laws (EOH, or Equal Opportunity Housing), which apply to ... housing. Likewise there are Equal Employment Opportunity laws that apply to employment. Neither applies to transportation. Airlines are common carriers regulated by the FAA and are required to be available to everyone. Protected classes, as in EOH or EEO, don't really exist with regard to air transportation at the federal level; states may vary.
     
    Holycowjenny likes this.
  3. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Are you freakin kidding me Lisa?!!! That is completely insane!!! Well they obviously CAN do what ever they want, but it is illegal. They were Mexican or hispanic seeking out Hispanic?! What was the outcome of that? Do they still work there? Nobody files a suit against them huh?
     
  4. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Well, this was at their site....Of course we know they get away with everything though...
    The Complaint Process

    • Travelers who believe they have been treated differently or unlawfully discriminated1 against by a Transportation Security Administration employee may file a civil rights2 or civil liberties3 complaint with TSA’s External Compliance and Public Outreach Division.
    1Discrimination includes treating someone differently or less favorably because of a person’s protected status, such as race, national origin, age, religion, gender, disability, sexual orientation, parental status, or retaliation as compared to someone else under similar circumstances.
    2A Civil Rights complaint concerns a perceived infringement of the Constitutional rights to due process and equal protection under the law based on race, color, national origin, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, religion, disability, parental status, or retaliation.
    3A Civil Liberties complaint concerns a perceived infringement on the Constitutional freedoms of speech, religion, and assembly.

    I don't expect them to do the right thing at all, because after all, look at what they are doing in violation of our fourth amendment to begin with. The supreme law of the land should be just that, the supreme law of the land. TSA even carry themselves as if they are on a power trip.
     
  5. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Unfortunately the courts have been complicit in protecting TSA but there have been some small victories. Since these cases tend to get some attention there are a few lawyers who have taken cases probably for PR reasons.

    If a lawyer can be persuaded to take the case it's worth pursuing.
     
    Holycowjenny likes this.
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    There was also a case where they settled (small settlement) with a Texas woman whose top they pulled down.

    Their "complaint process" isn't worth the paper it's written on.
     
    Holycowjenny likes this.
  7. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Well my Congressman Daniel Webster is doing to congressional inquiry, so maybe that will help a little??
     
  8. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    no complaint process, more like charges and a perp walk needed for the smurf.
     
  9. RB

    RB Founding Member

    If you want to see how TSA handles complaints see my article about complaints on TSANews.
     
    Holycowjenny likes this.
  10. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Report: Newark airport screeners targeted Mexicans and Dominicans
    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-06-14/...ecurity-screeners-newark-airport?_s=PM:TRAVEL

     
    Holycowjenny likes this.
  11. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Holycowjenny likes this.
  12. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    Wow!!! Mexicutioners??! Holycow! This is insane..I have never heard about these reports, but this cannot be isolated obviously. People think I am Hispanic too...just sayin....this is VERY distrubing to me..
    The report said Mexican and Dominican passengers were singled out for scrutiny of their travel documents as an easy way to drive up the number of referrals by Newark's (behavior detection officer) unit so that it would appear productive," So they have to have pressure nation wide. This has to be a VERY COMMON practice then if that is the case, in getting their numbers up. What an outrage! Doesn't this fall under the color of law? http://familyrightsassociation.com/info/fbi/fbi_color_of_law.htm
     
  13. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Jenny, I completely agree with your statement that I highlighted. If this practice is taking place at one airport, it's taking place at many other airports also. I've said that for years regarding other TSA "practices" that are allegedly taking place all over the country, such as the strip searches. Don't tell me they are "isolated incidents" that are not condoned. They take place every day all across the country.
     
    Lisa Simeone and Holycowjenny like this.
  14. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    They also tend to hide the different treatments and difference in following procedures under "changing up the routine to keep the terrorists on their toes."
    As for they do whatever, say whatever, whenever to whomever; they hide behind the convenient little clause "at the present screener's discretion."

    Is it right? No. but do the courts and real law enforcers enforce right vs wrong....the results so far seem to be no as they all cower under 'fear of being soft on terror.'
    It's messed up, like I've been saving/asking :Who's really protecting us from who again?
     
    Lisa Simeone and Holycowjenny like this.
  15. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    By the way did yall hear about this?? I posted it at What's On Your mind as well....but wanted make sure that you guys were informed...
    TSA Coming To a Highway Near You at Forbe.com here is the link http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/02/29/the-tsa-is-coming-to-a-highway-near-you/

    Interestingly enough, as TSA officials like to routinely point out, their agency’s acronym stands for Transportation Security Administration, not the Airport Security Administration. This fact has extended the TSA’s reach has far beyond the confines of our nation’s airports. Many of my constituents discovered this first hand this past fall as those familiar blue uniforms and badges appeared on Tennessee highways. In October Tennessee became the first state to conduct a statewide Department of Homeland Security Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response (VIPR) team operation which randomly inspected Tennessee truck drivers and cars.

    VIPR teams which count TSOs among their ranks, conduct searches and screenings at train stations, subways, ferry terminals and every other mass transit location around the country. In fact, as the Los Angeles Times has detailed, VIPR teams conducted 9,300 unannounced checkpoints and other search operations in the last year alone. The very thought of federal employees with zero law enforcement training roaming across our nation’s transportation infrastructure with the hope of randomly thwarting a domestic terrorist attack makes about as much sense as EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson’s Environmental Justice tour.

    Jenny
     
  16. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Jenny, yes, we here at TUG have known about the TSA's odious and aptly named VIPR teams for a long time now. I first wrote about them almost two years ago at a group blog to which I used to belong.

    Most of the USA hasn't woken up yet. And they won't, until they see a VIPR team in their own back yard. Even then it'll be, "well, whatever they have to do to keep us safe!"
     
    Holycowjenny likes this.
  17. Holycowjenny

    Holycowjenny Original Member

    2 years ago?! Omg...this is so disturbing, because I am waiting to get a car soon as I totaled mine, and I want to drive instead of flying to and from Florida to Texas...but being on the road with TSA would be a bigger nighmare, say if I am out on the middle of nowhere. There needs to be more stories about this...grrr
     
  18. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I make the trip in the opposite direction. Texas to Florida (and back). Travel by air from DFW to FLL (sometimes PBI/MIA) is only undertaken if we must compress our schedules. I have had issues with TSA at both DFW and FLL. Travel by auto takes longer but is preferable to having to put up with TSA BS. The airports and airlines lose while the hotels, restaurants and gas stations win.
     
    Holycowjenny likes this.
  19. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Wait for it.......

    "You're going to the store to get milk/to visit Grandma? Please step out of the car, please state your name aloud as I need to make sure it matches your license. We're going to perform an enhanced patdown, for your safety. You cannot have more than 3 oz of any liquid, gel or aerosol in your automobile that is not in a 1 qt clear ziplock bag. Now remove your shoes...."

    You guys get the drift.
     
    Lisa Simeone and Holycowjenny like this.
  20. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    And this is before the BDO hits on you.
     
    Lisa Simeone likes this.

Share This Page