Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by THawk996, Sep 16, 2011.
TSA fires, suspends dozens of Honolulu security screeners accused of not screening bags
I don't think it can be called theatre any more, it's not even BAD comedy.
Six months paid administrative leave.
Try getting that deal in the private sector when you're fired for being a screw up.
I think that if the TSA wants to claim that what they do is essential to national security, then TSA employees who're caught deliberately not doing the job, or actually committing crimes on the job (stealing, smuggling, engaging in retaliatory gropings, etc.) should not be fired.
They should be hanged by the neck as traitors.
Please let us not call for such things. Actually I find it highly disturbing to read this, and I would request that you remove it.
That'd be exactly why I said "...if the TSA wants to claim..." As it is, the TSA barely even fires people for malfeasance.
That's how I read it, with a little hyperbole thrown in for good measure. I certainly don't think the original comment could be taken seriously.
What should be taken seriously is that the TSA threatens people who say "Don't touch my junk," with administrative fines of $11,000 while putting people who've "interfered with the screening process" (by not performing it...) on paid administrative leave. If that doesn't tell you that the TSA doesn't take malfeasance by their own employees seriously, nothing will.
If they want to prance about in their bright blue uniforms claiming to be "fighting a war on terror," then I'm thinking that penalties like those for UCMJ Article 113 are not even remotely out of line.
Yes, I realize that, it's still upsetting to me, as I have had unfortunately had some contact over the years with violence and threats, and I have a strong emotional reaction to even ironical statements of this nature.
I'm sorry the statement is upsetting but it's just words and veiled sentiment. What I find highly disturbing is this reality. This IS real and completely devastating and it just happened in THIS country. Just know that I'm not minimizing your distress however the sh*t that is going on in this country is deeply distressing.
I understand that quite well, and I used that exact quote in my blog on DKOS about that crime, for I refuse to call it an "incident" any longer.
But we cannot become coarsened like our adversaries, for if we let that happen, we are become as them, and they will have won.
I sometimes think that we represent a possibly dying subculture based on respect, honor and dignity, insisting on those factors in ourselves and encouraging and looking for them in others.
Just to insist on dignity and respect is to thwart TSA. Pistole himself acknowledged this when he said to Congress that our social values will have to change (or words to that effect.) So long as we refuse to change, this monster cannot prevail.
Just returning to our English roots, but a bit inaccurate. Mere criminals were hanged. Traitors were hanged, drawn & quartered. To preserve their modesty (how thoughtful at such a stressful moment ), female traitors were burned.
I too have responded viscerally at threats for retribution that included actions to harm, making people homeless, as I am presently experiencing what I can only describe as "alternative methods of collection" by "associates" of those owed.
I also cringed at lizard's call for violent overthrow of our government (but figured it was too late to do anything about my affiliation with TUG at that point anyway).
Early on, when I objected to a satire that mocked PTSD reaction more than the subject TSA, and I suggested the thread be moved, I was told more or less to suck it up and move on. So, comment-reading is not for the sensitive.
I also reflected on the fact my ancestors in the Polish cavalry were probably quite quick on the draw, factoring into my line's survival to this day. Good thing for you and me, we can (still) seek remedies through law.
Or increasingly getting such deals even in the public sector. It is very telling to see which employee groups seem to benefit most from "protection." There is often a uniform involved.
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