TSA FOIA Request: How To, PLUS Pics/Name/Address/Ph# of Abusive TSM

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Affection, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I am reasonably certain that someone, somewhere, considers these "marital aids."

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    ...and they probably work for the TSA.
     
  2. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. If you're going to stand on principle, then, goddammit, stand on it! If you are in the right, then a little scrutiny won't hurt. Right? If your actions can withstand a little scrutiny, then what do you have to worry about!

    Here's the kicker: the person the OP says is one of the TSMs for FLL is NOT one of the TSMs for FLL. I just about fell out of my chair when I found out.

    Have fun, girls.
     
  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    ...says the man who'd ban photography at the checkpoint if it were up to him. What do you have to hide?
     
  4. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Boss, I was nice. I go for the throat when provoked and it isn't pleasant. Not much profanity, but lots of words that make a person question their current direction in life. Had more than one moderator go WTH?!
     
  5. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    I thought my last response clearly conveyed this message, but let me try again: I don't give a damn who you "report" me to. No one else here cares what you do either, but we do think you're a bit of a tool for trying. Is my commitment to my principles now understood?

    The person I referred to as a TSM was wearing a suit and when I asked a uniformed TSO if the man was a TSM, they told me he was. I also specifically asked for a TSM. Of course, it's not above the TSA to lie, or to talk out of their asses. Based on his wearing a suit, if not a TSM, that leaves FSD and A-FSD, and possible though unlikely he could be something like a non-TSA director of airport security. I say unlikely because he said (in the audio recording I posted), "we have to clear you," which makes me think he is one of the TSA, and the notion that the TSA would let a local employee handle things at a checkpoint is quite far-fetched. Additionally, only a TSA employee would say something as ridiculous as, "I cannot let you leave the checkpoint without being cleared." Any representative of the airport would have simply asked me to leave the airport. Finally, if he worked for the airport, he would be a county employee, and I would expect better rapport with the county sheriffs, who clearly were not hand-in-hand with him.

    So, cupcake, if you think my statement of TSA TSM is inaccurate, why don't make yourself useful and find out this man's actual employer and job title?

    --Jon
     
  6. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    I know who he is NOT. You posted erroneous information. I leave it up to the coaches to determine what to do with unverified identities posted on this website.
     
  7. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    And that's about the size of it, folks. If you repeat misinformation stated by a TSA employee, it's your own fault - because by now we should know that anyone working for the TSA or claiming to work for the TSA is going to lie to you.

    They're simply not to be trusted with anything.
     
  8. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    You think it's impossible that your "list" was out of date? Or that he's been fired, quit, promoted, or demoted since? Which is more likely to be incorrect: your list, or the TSA screener who told me that was his boss?

    But beyond that, it really makes no difference whether he's a TSM, A-FSD, FSD, or a janitor. He violated my rights under the guise of being a TSA employee. He had no lawful authority to detain me regardless of what position he held, but did so anyway.

    ...and his "identity" -- his name -- was verified by me on an airport-issued photo ID (which all TSA employees have) as well as confirmed by him verbally, on tape, audio posted on my blog.
    --Jon
     
  9. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    Interesting how you rationalize your irresponsible actions.

    Get some counseling, cupcake.
     
  10. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    WTF???? HIS irresponsible actions???? Just, WTF are you talking about here, cupcake?:confused:
     
  11. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    But not nearly as interesting as how the TSA and all of its employees lie to the public in order to continue groping them and stealing from them.
     
  12. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I don't agree with publishing detailed street addresses. But a perp pic and public notice of what this guy does at the checkpoint is a public service, and thank you Jon. Can you you suggest any other way to pressure these supposedly public servants (public groin groping masters is more accurate) into conducting themselves lawfully and decently at checkpoints? TSA comment cards?,
     
  13. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    Apparently you should ask to see ID before talking with anyone at checkpoints. I know I will in the future. I think that the more of them that know that they will be publicly named and shamed for their behavior, the less of them will cause trouble.

    I also asked for a comment card, but never got one. I figure an FTCA claim followed by lawsuit is kinda like a comment card.

    --Jon
     
  14. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    No. So the alternative is to get the blue-shirted clowns and their tie-wearing clown bosses away from the checkpoints.
     
  15. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    In a free society people can choose not to interact with habitual liars. Due to the breakdown in the rule of law within the U.S., citizens must deal with TSA employees. It doesn't matter whether the citizen knows better than to associate with people who display behavior consistent with sociopathy. Due to the increasingly criminal nature of the DHS & TSA, we're forced to deal with these cretins.

    Trying to figure out ways to cope with these forced interactions between decent citizens and empowered thugs is not easy.
     
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  16. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Sort of like the Cheka in the old Soviet Union, eh Bart? Find a sympathetic psychiatrist who certifies someone insane and have that person institutionalized against their will. I'm sure that Felix Dzerzhinsky would feel right at home working for the upper echelons of DHS/TSA.

    After all a person must be crazy if they continue to criticize the work of TSA since TSA is the only thing keeping the barbarians from over running us. The massive amounts of terrorists (expletive deleted)-bent on destroying us that TSA has turned away should properly be recorded for posterity. What's that? TSA has neither detected nor prevented from flying any terrorists? Surely you jest. What's that? DHS has allowed terrorist suspects to fly without notifying TSA? Sounds like your agency is more than a little disfunctional itself. Suggest a visit to the mental health people for the delusional workers at TSA who believe that they are actually contributing one iota of security to this nation.
     
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  17. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    Criticizing TSA is fair. In fact, it's necessary. I don't have a problem with that. Dragging in personal information crosses the line. If you can't see that, then check your azimuth. (That's Army talk...I know how some of the wimps in here hate it whenever I make a military reference...but this one hits the nail on the head.)
     
  18. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member

    If anyone's azimuth needs checking, it's yours cupcake.

    In our battle against our rights being taken away by a blue-shirted gestapo, all is fair.
     
  19. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Bart,if you think the wrong person was identified then why not provide correcting information?
     
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  20. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Methinks that what is bothering you is that one day your personal information will appear on line.
     
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