TSA goons are once again harassing Amtrak passengers

Discussion in 'Railways, Highways, Waterways' started by Mike, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Apparently now in cooperation with the Amtrak police ...

    Sacramento Bee: TSA agents search Amtrak trains in Sacramento

    Guess Amtrak is off my list of options. If I have to spend the rest of my life visiting just my cabin in northern MN, that's what I'll do. I am not going to participate in Homeland Security's police state.

    Wonder how Sunny Goth is planning to go home?
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  2. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Can't fly without search. Can't ride train or bus without search (random now, but when they get the money, who knows?). Can't drive near border (I think 100 miles?) without getting searched.

    Drugs are the real objective here. You always find them used as an excuse. That and illegal immigrants, that is commonly used of course for the searches within 100 miles of border. As if these things were worth sacrifice of the constitution.
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  3. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    Can't go to football games, can't visit museums, can't, can't can't - when are people going to wake up and say ENOUGH!!!???
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  4. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Never, because it's so much easier to be afraid. I constantly read of people encountering a search at this or that point, and saying how much safer they feel. Regardless of whether they are in fact safer, they feel safer, and the feeling becomes a reality, at least to them. It's almost exactly like drug addiction in terms of the psychological dependence on the security state. Indeed, a state of fear is almost welcomed, because then along will come some authority to take away the need to think a way out of the problem.
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  5. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Amtrak PD occasionally does bag searches on a train (about 1 in 20 bags are checked) and no personal searches (frisks). TSA, although a PITA just by being there, has to abide by those practices and restrictions.
  6. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Oh, cool! So does this mean that if I travel via Amtrack, I can stash that doobie in my cleavage, and TSA will be none the wiser? ;)
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  7. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    By train, of course. :) This article aside, I've seen no TSA anywhere near the trains. Maybe the trains stop for awhile in Sacramento giving TSA or police the time to search some number of people. But from what I've seen on my trek, the trains often stop long enough for passengers to get off and others to get on. That's it. There's just no time for any of the usual TSA nonsense. Every some number of stops there's a cigarette break for those who smoke, but never for any longer than 15 minutes or so.
  8. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    A couple of dozen comments on that story, all negative on the TSA. :D
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  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Just don't bend down to pet the nice doggie.
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  10. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Normally those goons are on the platforms only, that's where you see them.. Now they're on the trains. I would request an Amtrak PD to be present and would not give these folks the time of day. Insist on dealing with amtrak PD directly.
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  11. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Just got back. I was fortunate to never see any hint of TSA.

    I think I'm with you nachtnebel.
  12. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    The Coast Starlight has extended stops in Portland and in Sacramento (about an hour), which would seem to make those prime occasions for TSA activity. Typically, the infestation in Portland is in the platforms/station, as most or many folks get off to stretch out. However, I'm not sure if the goons actually get on the trains in Sacramento as the southbound would have everyone asleep---5:40 am!!!! and Northbound is also late, past bedtime. I can't believe they would go around disturbing people. Portland southbound is in daylight, as is northbound.
  13. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    [quote="nachtnebel, post: 14387"...However, I'm not sure if the goons actually get on the trains in Sacramento as the southbound would have everyone asleep---5:40 am!!!! and Northbound is also late, past bedtime. I can't believe they would go around disturbing people...[/quote]

    I believe they most certainly would go around disturbing people. Remember, these are the same people who think that genital fondling somehow thwarts "terrorism".

    However, the more important point is that, by and large, TSA seems to be mostly a M-F, 9-5 type organization. That's why the good people in Sacramento are safe. And by safe I mean from government terrorism.
  14. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Wait for it.....they will release that a source claims the next act may consist of sleeping passengers, thus they must wake and march everyone on the train...in an abundance of caution....to thwart any attempt....a small price to pay for your safety and the safety of others traveling with you.

    And half asleep passengers would be less like to have their wits and protest. Win-win!
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  15. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    Not fortunate, typical. I'm on 19/20 constantly, and once I get inside Club Acela at 30th street I don't see another T, S or A until I disembark in Naw'lins.
  16. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Let's keep our fingers crossed that it stays that way.
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