TSA Invasive Pat Down

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, Jul 1, 2011.

  1. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Another TSA groping complaint, similar to the Susie Castillo tape.
  2. LeapingFrogs

    LeapingFrogs Original Member

    Very composed, articulate, as calm as she could be... this video needs to go viral. I haven't looked at the comments yet, but I can guess she's getting a lot of support. Good for her.

    I'll post this around a few places. People should see it.
  3. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    She was very composed, but started to lose it a tad when talking about what they did to her on the chest feel over. She couldn't bring herself to go into specifics. Obviously bothered her a lot and continues to bother her. She has been damaged by this. Rugape, can you be proud of your people doing this? She played your d*mned game and still got molested and is going to have to deal with that bad memory for a good long time.

    Happy flying.
  4. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Very well spoken youngish woman.

    However, what bothers me about this video as well as the diaper incident, is that people seem to have fallen for the "times have changed" line of thinking. It's all well and good that more and more people are experiencing intrusions upon their bodies every single day and that they don't like it, but until they understand that "times" have really not changed, it is going to be difficult to sway people and get them to act. JMHO.

    My computer is going on vacation later today and I won't have access except via cell phone from which I find I can't log on.
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  5. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Question: What kind of a man knowingly surrenders his own daughter to one of us government workers to be molested, standing by passively even as her private parts are fondled while she screams “Daddy Daddy, please help me!”​

    Answer: an American man.​

    I speak only to you men when I say you gutless cowards will be lining up to hand over your wives and daughters in our airports, it will happen hundreds of time each day across our USA. You had better start explaining to your children that we government employees are allowed to touch their private parts whenever we want; it will make the whole thing a lot less dramatic. Seriously, the 1st time is always the worst. The next time you get molested will not feel as disturbing as we accommodate you to our abuses.


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  6. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member

    I swear, if my wife or my kid were being molested by a TSA-hole I be about 2 seconds from spending the night at Wake County Jail.
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    You need to upgrade your cell phone & service plan. There is no excuse today for spending any waking moment (nor most of the none-waking ones) without internet access.
  8. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    yeah, then you can spend hours trying to type in a two sentence paragraph on an absurdly small keyboard fighting auto correction software that thinks you should be typing TAR, not TSA.
  10. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    HA! My phone thinks I should be typing TSA when I try to type safe, safely, safety, etc...
  11. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Oh, and about this video...

    As Mike says, "We will win this one grope at a time."

    She starts off describing her experience as, "For the very first time, although I travel quite a bit, I experienced..." and goes on to describe what most of us know as the standard, or opt out pat down.

    I note that her YouTube profile is extraordinarymommy. I can't help but think she may be of the mindset of some other people some of us might know.

    Her story also confirms that even if you do go through a whole body imaging scanner, you may still get the pat down. Well, that's awesome.

    As more stories like this one get told, more and more people will begin to wonder why they are voluntarily going through this nonsense in the first place. We couldn't have asked for a better adversary in TSA. FWIW, I think ultimately that these machines, like every other scheme foisted on us by TSA, are going to be shortlived. We'll see.
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  12. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I believe so, I hope so. But the residual ill will that this has generated will take a LOT longer to go away. If this is followed by more such repressive measures, watch out.
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  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    It's trying to suggest tar & feathers.
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  14. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Re her video, yes, I, too, was struck by how she said she travels often but only just now noticed what was going on. Because it finally happened to her. I guess it was okay as long as it was happening to other people.

    Even though I know the human capacity for denial, I still find it stunning that so many people can be so willfully blind. I just don't get it.

    And note that the first thing the supervisor said to her was, "Calm down." This, too, is a classic oppressive tactic. Put the burden on the aggrieved party, put that person in the defensive position by implying that he/she is being "emotional" or "hysterical" or needs to "calm down," and by contrast imply that you are the rational one, you are the adult, you can handle the world in a way this person clearly cannot. This is smarmy and manipulative. And deliberate.
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  15. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach


    People truly believe any nonsense that goes on at the checkpoint was brought on because of that bad person's bad behavior. The precious snowflakes, such as the woman in this video, and an account from earlier this year think TSA isn't so bad, until TSA happens to you. They want their planes safe because, well don't you understand? It's better to tolerate these indignities than blow up in midair! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :rolleyes:

    And then they get the full TSA treatment, and maybe, just maybe they start to understand that those of us active Underground aren't a bunch of crackpots afterall.

    I remember right after the liquid ban was relaxed. I traveled with a full-size contact lens solution. :eek: Why? because I had a printout of the TSA website saying that I could. Because of who I knew at the airline where I worked at the time, I also had a printout of TSA's SD on the matter. Silly me. Candice, who was the supervisor called up to deal with my act of terrorism told me, in no uncertain terms, that I needed to stop disrespecting her and just follow the rules. When I produced the SD, she became incredulous and said, "That's what they do at HQ in Washington. You have NO IDEA what we see here, and we follow our own rules." My point here is that while this exchange was going on, Candice screaching and flailing her arms about, people were going through the line looking at me. The looks on their faces said it all, "I wonder what that a*hole did?" It's the problem with faux authoritah.

    Fast forward to now. Turns out I have a FB friend who works at that same airport now, well after what I said to her we aren't FB friends anymore. That's fine. I should note that I only "friend" people I know, and this woman was a former colleague. When I posted a diatribe against scope n grope, she made a reply comment that I have "NO IDEA what they see," and I should "get over myself" because they're just trying to keep everybody safe. Turns out her next job was at TSA. It's the same response we've seen all along from these types, and it is exactly as you describe it: smarmy, authoritative, and deliberate. They are all reading from the same playbook. It's obvious. Their goal is to "be in control".
  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Another person (wrong guy snatched off a plane at ATL) who was told to calm down: Atlanta Man Pulled Off Plane In Customs Mixup
  17. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    It's all about control. Power and control, power and control, power and control. Say it together, everyone!

    I also experienced TSA power tripping the final time I flew, last September, and wrote about it (one of the blog links I left earlier, in the "Introduce Yourself" section), and wrote about it happening to others (ditto links).

    Oh, and though I'm not on FB, I, too, have "un-friended" someone who accused me of being a crackpot. Or, in her words, "lunatic." This is a woman who works for ABC-TV in New York, someone well known, who refuses to believe empirical evidence -- even after one of her own colleagues, Carolyn Durand, was sexually assaulted by the TSA -- it made the news last November, just after the gropefests were instituted nationwide -- yet my former friend didn't believe it. So much for journalistic integrity.
  18. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    They don't believe because they don't want to believe it. If they believe it, then it's true.

    Note the tone in this very video. She seems somewhat befuddled at the situation. She's asking her audience, essentially, "What's the right thing to do here?" Even though it happened to her, she still doesn't quite believe it.
  19. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Kind 0f like my wife after her Nov. 1 grope -- she was sitting down just beyond the checkpoint in STL terminal #2 looking a bit shell-shocked, couldn't believe what had just happened to her.
  20. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    My wife was the same. I don't get as much crap about this issue as I used to.

    May I recommend that we all follow Fisher1949's lead to leave a supportive comment at the video? Sorry if I missed anyone, his was the obvious name...

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