TSA: Nervous actions tip screeners to suspected fraudsters

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Problem is this has nothing to do with aviation security.

    This program wastes a quarter $B annually, funded by taxes on airline tickets and supplemented by the U.S. Treasury, and they are not catching an terrorists. TSA should not be using our tickets taxes to fund an evidence-fishing program for local police & prosecutors.

    Sun Sentinel: TSA: Nervous actions tip screeners to suspected fraudsters

    "It was a great catch by our behavioral detection officers," said Tim Lewis, federal security director for Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International and Key West International airports. "We can't tell you the specific behaviors they were exhibiting. The important thing is we go by behaviors, not on appearance."
     
  2. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    yes, can you imagine the excuses when a terrorist does manage to slip through (they need only be intelligent and have the desire to) and does their work? Blogdad Bob will say: "Well, it's the first time in X years, and btw, look at all the deadbeat dads we've caught during those years".
     
  3. Deadbeat dads, people who are nervous about their flight, people distraught about something personal, people who don't like having to chit chat with aparatchiks, people who are worried that the aparatchiks are going to find a way to steal their valuables, people creeped out by choice of getting in a body scanner or submitting to a fondling by an entry-level employee with probable criminal tendencies...
     
  4. Also, having looked at the pictures in the article, I'd like some kind of proof that these guys weren't simply racially profiled and then proclaimed a "great BDO catch."
     
  5. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    I guess you have to consider the bigger picture concerning these two; but, why anyone would voluntarily submit to SPOTNik and even police questioning and a warrantless search landslide is beyond me.
     
  6. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    It appears to me that the FSD's comment that "We don't go on appearance." was designed to deflect accusations of profiling.
     
  7. I agree.
     
  8. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Look how many people post evidence of their criminal activities to Facebook.

    The explanation is simple: they're stupid.
     
  9. RB

    RB Founding Member

    The FLL FSD, Tim Lewis, didn't seem so concerned when I reported a suspected attempted theft by one of his TSA clerks. In fact he just told me we all have to expect more intense screenings.

    Don't believe anything out of the mouth of FLL FSD Tim Lewis.
     
  10. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    I saw something the other day that, after reading the back-patting article about TSA employee's s0uper sekrit powers of observation, proves yet again what a waste the whole Behavior Detection voodoo program is.

    I was sitting at the corner of the bar in my hotel. A younger couple walks up to the bar off to the side on my right, where I could see them without really staring. The man order drinks for himself and his female companion. She's standing slightly behind him, not making eye contact with the bartender, as if she's trying to disappear down into the carpet.

    To me, they look about mid to early 20s, but the bartender asks for her ID. She digs a card out of her purse, and reaches forward to hand it to him, as if she didn't want to get to close. Bartender looks at it, then back at her, asks a question I couldn't quite make out with the TV noise, then declines to serve her after hearing her response.

    So basically, the bartender did the same thing the as the TSA employees in FLL. :rolleyes:

    So here's an idea; privatize the whole ID checking operation and have Marriott or HMS Host install bars at the entrance to each checkpoint, and have the bartenders check IDs. If one is so inclined, you can have a pre-departure-pre-departure drink, and a snort of your favorite booze may take the edge off a same-sex grope. :eek::p
     
  11. Yeah, I'll betcha there was no micro-expression magic in this situation. These guys just acted shifty. You don't need training voodoo training to identify shifty.
     
  12. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    That is a very good idea! Here in Washington State in order to serve or make alcoholic drinks you have to attend an all day class regarding ID's and get either a Class 12 or Class 13 license otherwise no bartender or server job for you if the establishment serves booze. The class covers what is acceptable ID and what isn't, how to spot a fake ID plus identifying someone who has already had too much to drink as bartenders and servers here are responsible for a customer's actions like driving drunk or causing an accident if you are the last person to serve them. And, if you screw up, chances are you will be fired and your alcohol license revoked.
     

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